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Thanks for posting Anaconda. Having tangled with Alex port before nothing you've said surprises me. Well done for coming out the other end. The rest of your trip will be a breeze!

For all others out there wanting to travel the east coast facing the same dilemmas I'd suggest considering shipping to southern africa and driving back. It cost us around 2000 euro to ship to Walvis Bay and was very easy. It is a lot easier to get back from NorthAfrica/Middle East than to get to there. We and the car went on the Grimaldi ferry from Israel to Italy for around 1,100 euro (5 days travel all inclusive - good cabin good food, even wine). I know south to north won't suit everyone's plans but it's worth a thought.
Very accurate info!
But is there no problem to enter Israel from Egypt with your car when coming from East Africa?
Or there is something I don't understand well...

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Very accurate info!
But is there no problem to enter Israel from Egypt with your car when coming from East Africa?
Or there is something I don't understand well...

RR.
No, problem at all. You can drive straight over at Taba or come in from Jordan (which is what we did). The problem is having the Israel stamps and then wanting to travel to Sudan, Syria etc.

Entering Israel with a car is no picnic (they make you take out everything and put it through the scanner, and I mean everything) but they do that no matter what the car or where it's come from.

Also I should have made it clear that the prices for the shipping were for a container for a car, as was the price on the ferry. Obviously if you can just sublet some space in a container it will be much cheaper.
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Thanks Itchy...
How much time for inspecting your car and all the items? I know it depends what you have in your car but It's just to have an idea...
Another question: I believed that diesel engines was not authorized for tourists people in Israel (but it was a long time ago).
No problem now?
Also, to be clear about your route (I'm planning approximatly the same next year): You came back from East Africa (Ethiopia?) across Soudan then Egypt.
After did you take the ferry to Jordan before entering Israel?
Why didn't you enter directly Israel from Egypt (to visit Jordan, I presume)?
And 1100 was the price for 2 people and a car (4wd?)...
Sorry for all these questions and thanks in advance for your replies.
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No problem Roro.

Entering Israel took about 8 hours. We got there as the border opened but had to wait a couple of hours on the Jordan side because they weren't ready to search the car. Other tourists on foot were going through.

Then the scanning. This took probably 4 hours. Every box came out and everything was emptied. The fridge came out - all contents scanned. Pages of books leafed through - you get the picture. They were perfectly civil and professional though and doing exactly the same thing to the bags of all the foot passengers. It's just we had a car full. Then we had to hand the keys over and they inspected the car. They took off spare wheels, opened the tent - probably another hour or so. A dog searched it for explosives.

They wanted to do the same thing on exit. We had just got everything out when the shipping agent came along and said that we'd miss the ship. They waived the search and everything went back in again...

No problem with diesel cars (ours is diesel) except the price of fuel (European prices).

Our route was as you said - Kenya, Ethiopia, Sudan, Egypt, Jordan, Israel.

Yes we wanted to visit Jordan (and very glad we did - Petra and Wadi Rum were highlights of the whole trip). We took the Nuweiba ferry. When crossing from Jordan to Israel you have to cross at Eilat in the south or at the Jordan River in the north. You can't cross at Allenby Bridge with a private car.

BTW I'm glad we went to Israel - Jerusalem was amazing and it has some fantastic scenery/camping/walking. We had wolves around our desert camp, howling.

Yes 1100 euro for two people and the car (Land Rover). Ship is huge (capacity 5,000+ cars). Carried cranes, boats, all sorts. Plenty of room for the car and we could access it at any time. It was strapped down. There were also various port costs ($200 for a forwarding agent (mandatory) and $100 for the shipping agent ($25pp and $50 per car). Ship was a good experience. 3 course meals, wine, Italian crew very nice. Good clean en suite cabin. Trip took 5 days.

Info and current prices here

http://www.grimaldi-freightercruises...medEnglish.pdf

As you can see a bike is quite a bit cheaper, but if you are one person you may have to share a cabin or pay extra for one to yourself. Not sure how that works. I have contact info for the people we dealt with if you want it. Very helpful, good english and we paid by card over the phone.

Any other questions let me know.
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Thanks a lot for all these infos, I'm going to to study all tese points.

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