Hi,

I want to ask you what is the best (read as safest and an easiest) way to go to from Europe (Germany) to Egypt by motorbike? I read a lot in this forum and other forums, but the picture is still not clear to me.
The background is that I consider to go to Egypt in December / January and meet there with my 15 years old daughter (she has to go by plane, because there is only a limited timeframe). So I definitely have to arrive in time in Egypt or her mother will kill me with no doubt.
Form my knowledge there is no passenger ferry to Egypt. So I decided to take a ferry to Israel, but to my surprise there also no longer exist a passenger ferry . There are two cargo ferries operated by Grimaldi and Salamis, but is seems that they are no longer carry passengers.
So the last option seems to be going thru Libya, is this possible and save for travelers? Are there any other recommendable options I missed?

Thanks for all tips,
Carsten

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I don't think Libya is a very good idea at the moment!!
Also you may have trouble getting a visa for Libya.

If you ship into Egypt, don't underestimate customs clearing times!

Andy

I took a ferry from Venice in 2010. Not sure if it's still running. Look for a ferry into Alexandria.

Egypt is by far the most bureaucratic, dis-organised and dishonest country I have ever visited in my life. You will go grey there trying to sort anything out.

It's also an awesome adventure to travel through it.

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No, the Venice / Alex ferry (viesmar), stopped some time ago now,

I have both containered to Alex & driven in across Libya 3 times, by far the least stressful was driving, but I don't think that via Libya is a sensible option right now. I have flown in numerous times & used a friends land cruiser while there, but there's nothing like exploring a place like Egypt with your own vehicle.

Anyone know any way of getting a landrover Discovery into Egypt from Europe these days?

Um, that's what this thread is about!

I'm also researching hiring a small ship for a private passage at the beginning of December. Have five 4x4 (and crews) signed up so far, so looking good...

Cheers, Sam.

Hi everyone. I live in Egypt and have done some research on this recently. I think Egypt is a great place and it is a pity that travelling through it is so difficult lately.

The rules of the game are changing all the time, so they may have changed by the time I stop typing.

Shipping:
- currently the only way that I know of shipping cars into or out of Egypt from the North is by using Grimaldi lines (see this other post for details). You cannot accompany the vehicle (car/motorcycle) which is a bummer

Sinai crossing:
- there is a war in North Sinai at the moment and the army is quite nervous. They have recently warned that any 4x4 which is not driving on tar is a potential target for drones … I guess that is pretty clear
- a friend of mine tried getting into the Sinai (to cross into Israel) 3 weeks ago and was refused 3 times (2 times in Suez, once in Port Said), even when he tried to ship it inside a 4x4. The reason for this is because motorcycles are being used for suicide bombing attacks
- I understand that 4x4 overlanders can still cross into the Sinai and through to Nuweiba (to take the ferry to Aqaba) or to Taba (to cross into Israel). The mountain roads through Sinai are closed at night and it is advised to take the coastal road. You will most probably be forced to drive in a convoy.

Will post if I hear that things are changing again.

Hello,

if i enter in Israel will i get problems at the border of Sudan?Even if i dont get stamped my passport,they can see that i get stamped my carnet at the border in Israel.

Regards

Mike

Hi there,
has anyone recently crossed through Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia? I am planning on shipping my vehicle from Greece to Egypt and then driving down, however, I have heard that they are not allowing 4x4s in? Especially Land cruisers due to hi-risk of hi-jacking and your vehicle being used for terrorism... Can anyone fill me in on up to date info with regards to this?

Thanks in advance
Jess

Hello Jess
how are you ? good luck with your epic trip
regarding 4x4 in Egypt no problems to drive from Alexandria all the way to Sudan borders ,
following the river Nile roads or the red sea coast or the Oases
you are jut not allowed to enter Sinai with a 4x4
i live in Alexandria if you need any help that i can do you can ask me
cheers

Hi,
thanks for all the answers.

I was afraid that going thru Libya would be a bad idea at the moment. What a pity. Yesterday I also talked to a carrier whether it is possible to send the bike by plane, but it seems that this is also not an option, because the custom clearance would be a pain and there is no reliable partner in Egypt. So I dropped the idea for now.

Carsten


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Hey Carsten,

perhaps you should try Rosenfeld shipping: alicia@rosenfeld.net
They have a ferry running from Lavrio/Greece to Haifa/Israel.
I will try to take that one as well, but with a normal bicycle, not a motorbike. Not sure if they are taking motorbikes...

Good luck and all the best!
Dominik

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Hi Dominik and all who are interested,

Rosenfeld shipping indeed offers a passage to Israel. A cabin is € 300,- and a passage for the motorbike is € 400,- Nevertheless I postponed the trip for other reasons.

Carsten

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So Europe-Israel is okay, but how do you get from Israel to Cairo (for example)?

normally, getting from Israel to Cairo shouldn't be a problem. As long as you don't have a 4x4 you can cross the Taba border (we just did it, albeit the other way round from Egypt to Israel) and had absolutely no problem.
Zhen you can ride from Taba via Sinai (probably have to go the long way round, i.e. through Dahab, Sharm, El Tur) and through the Suez tunnel to Cairo. Worst case is, they will make you go in a convoi (mostly between Dahab and Sharm, we didn't have one but we heard from others who were made to wait at the checkpoint).
As I said before, we did it the other way round: we went from Cairo to Sinai, stayed at Dahab for a while and then crossed into Israel with two motorbikes. we didn't have any trouble.