Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North Africa
North Africa Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Trans Sahara Routes.

Like Tree5Likes

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25 Jan 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 22
Carnet for Sudan, Egypt and Saudi

Hi,
I am presently in Ethiopia waiting to get a visa for Sudan. I have had a few delays on my trip and as a result my carnet has expired.
Can anyone advise if I actually need a carnet for Sudan.
Also how about Saudi Arabia, I am getting both it is needed and not needed.
Finally I have heard that it is possible now to get an "Egyptian Carnet" does anyone know anything about this.
Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25 Jan 2015
schenkel's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
Carnet is required for Sudan but if you haven't got one they can issue you with a (form #25). It can cost some money but I do not know how much but it is worth asking for that form though.
Saudi Arabia does not require carnet as far as the RAC in the UK.
As for Egypt, they definitely require it, but if you ain't got one they will accept a securing deposit which you will need to claim back at point of exit.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 31 Jan 2015
schenkel's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
Mandm, where are you now?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 6 Feb 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 49
When you get to Aswan,Egypt border,just ask for TIP (temporary Import paper)
May take you few days(took me 3 days back in December 2012)
Be very patient,polite and smile.
They will try to sell (bogus Egypt carnet)don't buy it! Ask for TIP
I payed for "TIP"refundable $800usd,which I got back in Taba border with Israel,make sure in Taba you stay there until you get your refund,they will try to send you to another border with near by Jordan( you won't get your refund there)
In Aswan ,border when you get off from ferry ,There is a lot of place for bush camp,walking distance.
Just cross train tracks and head for desert ( I camp there 7days waiting for cargo boat with my motorbike)
In Aswan city,take train or taxi,you could stay( for free)at Catholic Church near Mc Donald's,super friendly Italian fathers allow me to stay for x-mass in their garden,very save in the middle city, hot shower too.
I'm not sure about your future plans but don't miss Israel,I could give some great tips there.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 13 Mar 2015
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 3
Carnet for Egypt

Did you find out anymore about the carnet for Egypt?

In a similar situation currently in Kenya and our carnet expires in a month. Don't really want to get a new one or pay 800% that the RAC charges.

Any help appreciated!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14 Mar 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 22
I am still stuck in Ethiopia waiting for my vehicle to be fixed so I cannot help as yet.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 27 Mar 2015
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 3
Sudan Carnet

How are you getting on with repairs? We are now in Ethiopia too.

Would be great if you could let us know how you get on with Sudan. I think our carnet will expire as we leave Ethiopia.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11 Apr 2015
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Brazil
Posts: 4
Overland Sudan, Ethiopia, Egypt

Hi guys!
it will be great to hear about your experience crossing these countries as we are looking to do the same by the end of this year. Please tell us.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 17 Oct 2015
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 50
Hi,
I am interested in coming the other way. I am in turkey now with my bike and want to go east africa and ride to the west and leave via morocco. Currently thinking i ship to israel, ride to jordan, then either ship bike to djibouti or transit through saudi and take ferry to sudan.

I would appreciate any info on your experiences - especially because i want to do this without the carnet.

any info would be helpful.

cheers,
regie
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 7 Jan 2016
ftapon's Avatar
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 10
Question Sudan -> Egypt -> Libya without carnet

Quote:
Originally Posted by romnek72 View Post
When you get to Aswan,Egypt border,just ask for TIP (temporary Import paper)
May take you few days(took me 3 days back in December 2012)
Be very patient,polite and smile.
They will try to sell (bogus Egypt carnet)don't buy it! Ask for TIP
I payed for "TIP"refundable $800usd,which I got back in Taba border with Israel,make sure in Taba you stay there until you get your refund,they will try to send you to another border with near by Jordan( you won't get your refund there)
In Aswan ,border when you get off from ferry ,There is a lot of place for bush camp,walking distance.
Just cross train tracks and head for desert ( I camp there 7days waiting for cargo boat with my motorbike)
In Aswan city,take train or taxi,you could stay( for free)at Catholic Church near Mc Donald's,super friendly Italian fathers allow me to stay for x-mass in their garden,very save in the middle city, hot shower too.
I'm not sure about your future plans but don't miss Israel,I could give some great tips there.
It sounds like the $800 TIP is the way around the carnet requirement.

Do you need to return to the same place you entered?

Or can you enter from Aswan (Southern Egypt) and exit via Libya?
Would they refund you the $800 at the Libya border?
What if they don't have the money?

Thank you!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 23 Mar 2016
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 4
Can anyone confirm that the TIP from 2012 is still acceptable??
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 8 May 2016
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 137
Hey,

I am interested to know if it is possible to take a motorcycle through Saudi on a 72 hour transit visa Northbound, coming from Sudan? I have a British/Aus/NZ passport. Anyone know if its open to motos?
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 8 May 2016
schenkel's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
Last time I checked at the Saudi embassy in Khartoum in September 2015 I was told: No foreign transit motorbikes allowed in Saudi roads, FULL STOP. Forget it.
But having said that, there is one option:
Ride all the way to (Sawakin, Sudan), put the bike on the ferry heading to Jeddah. Once in Jeddah you will only be allowed to transport your bike on the back of a lorry to an exit point (say Jordan) probably on the back of a lorry. You will not be allowed to ride it on Saudi roads.

Last edited by schenkel; 8 May 2016 at 12:40.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 8 May 2016
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 137
Damn fml, that sucks lol. Trying to find a route out of Africa.

Take the $800 TIP hit and go through Egypt, and ship out from the north, or with possible problems crossing sinai into Israel/Jordan and shipping out from there

Take the Saudi route, with the bike on a lorry

Ship straight up through the Suez if thats even possible

Or the route always dreamed of, somehow find a way from Sudan through Chad into Niger then up through Algeria and probably get kidnapped.

What have others been doing recently?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 8 May 2016
schenkel's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
Yes Africa and Middle East sucks when it comes to travel.
What is your route wanted?
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Avoid Egypt going up - Saudi Arabia or shipping? Majoafrika North Africa 71 25 Jul 2014 10:13
East Africa WITHOUT Egyptian Carnet possible? UK Bike jaybee Middle East 2 9 Sep 2013 19:03
Egypt to Saudi Arabia is it possible? smokinglazarus Middle East 7 28 Mar 2013 08:19
Egypt to Jordan (without Saudi Arabia) flotter Route Planning 1 25 Jan 2013 10:52

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27 2025
Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
CanWest: July 10-13 2025
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21 2025
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 17:32.