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Can anyone confirm that the TIP from 2012 is still acceptable??
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8 May 2016
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Hey,
I am interested to know if it is possible to take a motorcycle through Saudi on a 72 hour transit visa Northbound, coming from Sudan? I have a British/Aus/NZ passport. Anyone know if its open to motos?
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Last time I checked at the Saudi embassy in Khartoum in September 2015 I was told: No foreign transit motorbikes allowed in Saudi roads, FULL STOP. Forget it.
But having said that, there is one option:
Ride all the way to (Sawakin, Sudan), put the bike on the ferry heading to Jeddah. Once in Jeddah you will only be allowed to transport your bike on the back of a lorry to an exit point (say Jordan) probably on the back of a lorry. You will not be allowed to ride it on Saudi roads.
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Damn fml, that sucks lol. Trying to find a route out of Africa.
Take the $800 TIP hit and go through Egypt, and ship out from the north, or with possible problems crossing sinai into Israel/Jordan and shipping out from there
Take the Saudi route, with the bike on a lorry
Ship straight up through the Suez if thats even possible
Or the route always dreamed of, somehow find a way from Sudan through Chad into Niger then up through Algeria and probably get kidnapped.
What have others been doing recently?
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Yes Africa and Middle East sucks when it comes to travel.
What is your route wanted?
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Coming up from the East, Kenya, Ethiopia, Sudan. Then after that I have no idea, kind of just winging it. My final destination is Spain to leave my bike and go back to work for a couple of months. So I don't really want to go toward the Middle East if I don't have to. So from Sudan to Spain, cheapest way possible I guess
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If I were you I would ride or fly from Khartoum to Al Fashir [good road and safe, big town, stay there but be vigilant and wait to figure out your next step. People are very nice and will make you very welcome. Don't wander about after dark though, bottled water, hospital, petrol, airport available]. If you fly your bike will be with you in next or two days, custom clearance is cheap and easy.
From Al Fashir ride in convoy or ship bike on back of lorry to Al Junainah [Again Nice town and people and welcoming. very helpful at the customs and will definitely assist you on your next move, spend some time here to get to know things and detail your next move. {bottled water, hospital, petrol , airport available}.
From Al Junainah ride to Adre [good piste, you can spend the night at the Sudanese army post after Al Junainah and just before the Adre border post, very safe and soldiers will offer you a meal and you can use their toilets and get water from the well (don’t forget water tablets)].
To Abeche on a very pointy and rough road but your bike will definitely handle it better than my street bike (Fazer6). Don’t rush into getting into big towns if it gets dark just make sure you get to your next stop well before dark and if you can’t just stop at any village and you will be amazed by the hospitality and generosity of people. Abeche is good size town with lots of services and you can use western union to receive money. {bottled water, hospital, petrol , airport available}
To Oum Hadjer (good paved road and good piste)and down to Mangalme (I think this was good piste but they were paving it back in 2014), (Now if the stretch to Atti is finished, then go to Ati and if not then go to ), Mongo, Bitkine, Bokoro, Massaquet and NDJamena. All these are mostly very good piste and fantastic paved roads all the way to Ndjamena.
From NDjamena to Bongor (potholes loads of them), to Moundou.
From Moundou in Tchad cross the border to Touboro in Cameroon.
From now on all fantastic paved roads just open two things: your eyes and the throttle and enjoy
From Touboro to Mbang, Ngaoundere, Meiganga, Garoua Mboulai, Bertoua, Abong Mbang and to Yaounde. (Yaounde is cool, get visas here) {bottled water, hospital, petrol ,Airport available}
From Yaounde go up to Bafossam, Bamenda, Mamfe (fill up with water and petrol now)
From Mamfe cross border into Nigeria {now this bit here is tricky, I crossed that in the dry season and the road was a horrible piste. I heard that the Chinese have paved it since then I just hope that this is true otherwise it will be a nightmare to cross in the wet months}
Now make your way down to Calabar, Owerri, Onitsha, Benin City and then Lagos. All paved and services available everywhere. (In Nigeria just stick to the Christian South and don’t go North).
From Lagos start early so you can skip (fast through) the horrible corrupt unpleasant Benin.
Now you are in Lome in Togo. Nice people and scenery. Services available everywhere and good hotels available.
From Togo go to Atakpame, Kara, Dapaong.
Now cross border into Burkina Faso, to Tenkodogo, Pouytenga, Ouagadougou, Ouahigouya.
Cross border to Mali to Bankas.
From Bankas go to Mopti (visit Dogon Land You won’t regret it), Segou, Bamako (Nice city, sleeping camel hotel is nice spend as much time there and explore the city.)
From Bamako head to Kolokani, Diema then to Gogui.
Fom Gougi cross the border in Mauritania (Fill up at wherever you find petrol) into Ayoun el Atrous.
From there go to Kiffa, Aleg, Nouakchott, and up to Nouadhibou.
Now cross border into Wonderful Morocco.
From Morocco it should be piece of cake and the transition into Europe should be easy and bribe & hassle free.
This was the route I took in 2013 but the opposite direction.
I did not stay at every town I rode through, only in big ones and wild camped some nights and stayed in villages when it was not possible to reach big towns before dark.
People in Africa are very welcoming and 99.99% of them are very kind and helpful.
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