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Cool carnet in algeria and niger
is carnet needed in algeria and niger?
where is the thruth?
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The Bradt overland guide (p93) and also the German automobile association
(ADAC,
http://www.adac.de/ReiseService/tourset_reisefuehrer/tipps/Carnet_de_Passage/Carnet_e.asp?ComponentID=79913&SourcePageID=79838)
tell that in West Africa you don't need a "carnet de passage", you do need
however a 'carte gris' ('grey card') that is basically your ownership papers.
At the borders of west african countries you can buy a 'laissez passage'
('let through') for a small fee.

If you have any doubts then you can ofcourse always phone your local consulate or embassy

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Algeria, Niger - no carnet required.

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even for cars older than 5 years?
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5 years is only Senegal
Er, that's it.

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I can confirm that no carnet is required for Niger , nor Chad , Burkina, Mali , Mauri , Morocco , GuinaBis , guineaCon , Algerie , Nigeria , Cameroon , etc..

Senegal is easening that 5 years old rule (only enforced in Rosso , go via Diama )

Latest news in my forum , is that carnet for Ghanna is no longer required neither.


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I was in Diama yesterday, 5 year rule is still very much alive.

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Hi , Sam
well , the 5 year old rule its still enforced , but is not what it used to be . I have been there 4 times the last 12 months and ... I could bring in vehicles older than 5 years.

Ammount of "bribes' were

1 ... 50 Euros + a Broken Car Stereo
2... Set of 2 "golden" gift Watches (10 Australian $!)
3... 75 Euros (as I was in a hurry and I didnt even try to discuss the price)
4 ... 15 Euros + 2 cheapo Halfords's headlamps (20 Quid ?)

Trick is of course " I don't have any money , only credit cars , blah blah blah , I only have *THIS* ammount (15 Euros ?) to get to SanLuis , blah blah blah
where I can get money again , but now .. this is all that I got ( showing your nearly empty wallet , helps a lot )
and that is. More often than not , they let you in by a small "tocken" and the money . In my experience , broken / old radio stereos work like a charm.

yep , yep , I know we shouldnt encourage bribbery , but -having said that - I feel better paying 50Euros plus a shitty stereo to a poor man than 250 quid to the RAC.


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old bikes?
hi guy's,is this the same for bikes

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YEP ,the 5-year-old rule for the north border of Senegal , also applies to motorcycles. Every other country of West Africa , or even other borders (South , East ) of Senegal , dont require carnet any more.

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hi mate,so trying not to sound a bit daft when we turn up at the border in jan it's just a case of a bung and we'll be ok?



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>?>hi mate,so trying not to sound a bit daft when we turn up at the border in >>jan it's just a case of a bung and we'll be ok?

yep (I presume you are talking about Senegal) . Other countries don't give a damm about the Carnet.

as long as you enter Senegal via Kidira (Mali) , or Farafeni / Barra (from Gambia ) or Diama (from Mauritania ) ,you will be ok . You will have to pay ... from 5 Euros to 75 Euros , but either case is nothing compared with what a carnet cost.

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