Thanks Achim, there's usually someone engineering all of these situations behind the scenes (good or bad), but its the guy on the street who suffers for it.
We're watching the situation as closely as possible at the moment and it's clearly difficult for the people there. Our difficulties trying to get into the country are very small compared to what's happening on the streets.
Lets hope things settle and the violence stops soon - maybe Egypt can re-open for business quickly, but it looks unlikely at present.
Regards
Scott

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Hi we went through before and after the revolution leaving by the 10th I think. At that point it hadnt changed the situation much, it still took a queue from 1 hr to 3 or more if you didnt want to cut in or pay extra for some black market fuel with no queue. The locals were cutting in as well in places and there were some heated discussions.
Normal price 1.10 Egp
Abu Simbul no queues at all though! The revolution didnt seem to have reached there

Mail from Bahariya :
Since Morsis removal there is again fuel/diesel at the filling stations in the oasis
and less electricity blackouts!

Hi Scott,My wife and I are also on the way home to Cape Town.Where are you now ? The last post I can find on your website is Cyprus in May ?

I found fuel at every station. No problems here!

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We're still in Cyprus (I'm afraid).
Seems like the ferry from Turkey to Egypt is still cancelled / suspended. We currently expecting to get back to Turkey late August and try and find a container boat / RORO to Sudan if the Egypt ferry doesn't start running.
Have looked into containers from Cyprus / Port Sudan but (since car is approx 2.5m high) latest quote from here is $6,000 (!!).
We may have to risk ferry to Israel - Jordan and then Egypt and just take a chance re Israeli stamps in the Carnet when we get to Sudan.
How did you get on getting in?
Scott

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Only go in a couple of weeks. Will let you know.

We are also going through greece to israel on our way to capetown in a month...hope egypt can hold together...


Steven

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we are looking to enter N Africa at the end of August and are currently getting quotes for a 20ft container from Mersin to Port Sudan. It would be a shame to miss Egypt (but have been there before) but this way we avoid the potential problems of Israeli stamps.

We currently have estimates from a Turkish shipping agent and a Sudanese shipping agent. Some details yet to finalise, but could enquire about a 40ft container if anyone is interested in sharing (or may be able to squeeze a bike into the 20ft container with our car).

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Hi,

We would be interested in sharing a container, but I don't think that the time period will be good when we will be in turkey.

But how much are you expecting to pay for the container?

SImon

Hi Simon, I did a scrap of paper calculation that the costs for the 'regular' Iskenderun / Port Said ferry (if it was running!) then down to Khartoum via White Desert in Egypt and Wadi Haifa barge would cost about $4,500 (incl fuel, 'waiting' in hotels, fixers, etc).
As an estimate to also get to Khartoum, container estimates we have had so far include;
1) approx $2,600 from a company in Port Sudan (includes clearing the vehicle at Port Sudan, but I'm not sure yet what costs / proceedure is involved in loading it at Mersin, Turkey.
2) approx $3,500 from a company in Istanbul who will deal with all the loading / lashing etc, but seem to only want to ship to Mombassa. This would mean us back-tracking quite a bit as we're keen to see Sudan and particulary spend time in Northern Ethiopia.
Both costs exclude flights to follow the car and any hotel costs either end. They also assume we can get the roof-tent off and to get into a standard height 20ft container (and that tent will also fit in).
All in all, I think the costs are going to work out much the same. It's going to come down to whats possible / sensible.
One of the other advantages of the shipping however would be that we would avoid having Egypt added to the Carnet. This would save us about £3,000 (although we would get half of that back when returning the Carnet to the RAC).
Still not sure which option we're going to go with yet - am watching how VanGS gets on as he has gone via Israel and it will be interesting to see what happens when he gets to Sudan.
It would be so much easier if the bloody Iskenderun / Port Said ferry was still running.
Regards
Scott

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Hoi,

We hebben gezien dat je ons hebt toegevoegd op fb. Bedankt voor je antwoord, wel vrij duur, maar zeker geïnteresseerd om een container te delen, maar hadden liever van Turkije naar Egypte geweest, omdat het ons ook wel een heel interessant land lijkt. Als het echter niet anders kan dan gaan we wel via port Soedan. Zijn ook aan het mailen met unroro, Miss komt daar nog iets uit de bus. Keep us up To date.


Groetjes, Simon en lore

hi warethefoxhat
Could you share with us your contact for Turkey to Mombassa. We are in the similar boat of trying to get to Africa from Turkey. We may want to consider this option, or try out the company UN Ro.Ro.

Thanks

Trust me, you do not want to take the boat to dar es salaam! If you do not bother about all the nice things you will miss on the road, there is still the point of a lot a lot of corruption in the harbour of dar es salaam. I heard now from 3 different people that they shipped a car to dar es salaam and had to pay more then 5000 dollar to get the car from the harbour!!

When will you try to go from Turkey to Egypt? Which period? We will do the same in the beginning of october!

With all the emails I've got / sent, I'm afraid I still haven't got anything finalised yet (still questions to be answered by each shipper). However, all of the guys below have been pretty helpful so far and I'm making progress with each of them:
1- Turkey (believe it's Mersin) to Mombassa: Ships International (a broker) email Ahmed05@shipsintelltd.com Contact is Ahmed. Cost approx €2,500 plus a few extras. Don't know cost of clearing the car in Mombassa yet.
2 - Turkey (or Cyprus) to Port Sudan: These guys are based in Sudan and say they will deal with clearing the car from the port. Don't know yet who they use in Turkey for loading etc. Biggest issue seems to be that Visas can take up to 6 weeks to get and are needed before you fly in (I think its probably best to know you've got them before putting car in the container!). email darkaship@darkasudan.com Contact: Ismail Ahmed. Cost approx €1,900 plus insurance etc.
3 - Turkey to Egypt: This is a RoRo service to Alexandria, organised via a UK company called Autoshippers (a division of 1st Move International). Email graeme@shipit.co.uk Contact: Graeme Webb. Cost approx €850 (plus insurance - which I'm checking as it seems very expensive). Problem with this one is they're currently saying car must travel empty and personal belongings be shipped separately. Can't see that working for us.

SimonLore also mentioned a company called UnRoRo which goes from Turkey to Alexandria, but I don't have contact details to hand and don't know if they will allow personal possessions to be left in the vehicle (or whether it would be safe to do so - I've heard some horror stories).
Mind you, I've heard nothing good at all about Mombassa or Dar.
Since this thread is about Egypt fuel supplies, I'll start a new one called 'Avoiding Egypt going down', (there is currently one called 'Avoiding Egypt going up' otherwise we're possibly messing up anyone looking for info related to the thread title.
Regards
Scott

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