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Old 11 Nov 2012
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Nick,

I suggest you get one or two of the big plastic 25l oil cans or 30l pesticide cans that have a well sealing cap, re-used ones are being sold on markets for next to nothing. For diesel they are perfectly fine, just make sure that you rinse them well with a litre or two of petrol before use. A length of plastic hose aso comes handy to decant fuel rather than having to handle the heavy jerries. I guess with an extra two cans you should be able to double your range.

If you get into difficulties, if you have a hose with you you can always bargain with a passing truck for 5-10 litres of diesel. My experience is that a 100% premium is the usual going rate, which at current Egyptian diesel prices is not very much... Typically for that premium you will also find someone with a couple of full 200l drums in their back yard very quickly in Baharyia or Dakhla. Farafra can be genuinely difficult sometimes.
Thanks for this- all good to know.

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Yes there is a problem with deisel in Western Desert.
We have just returned from the Western Desert, we went north to South, there were very long queues at every oasis. Even tour companies are struggling.
However as tourists we managed to top up at 3 oasis with little queueing due to the kindness of the Egyptians who allowed us to go to the head of the queue in Bahariya, In Mut we came across a very small queue at the back end of town and topped up, then in Khaga the tourist police took us to a place to fill up with no queue, it was for emergency vehicles only. they told us to always check with the tourist police who will help get diesel.
The tourist police escorted us in a couple of sections from Kharga to Luxor, but not a problem as they just followed on behind. Have a great time, we agree with the above comments to carry extra jerry cans or containers.
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To add to the above shortages now in Aswan very hard to find fuel and Luxor the only choice seems to be the black market. Fill up were ever you can.
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Sorry, Nick, for not answering earlier - we have just entered Sudan and I did not have access to the web for the last days.

Nothing is certain in Egypt. But if you ask around, people will certainly help - especially when you show up with a tuk-tuk. The main factor is time. At some moment, Diesel will eventually arrive - but this then causes havoc because everybody rushes to the pump (I have seen bitter fights). Nevertheless, as a foreigner you should benefit from the hospitality of the Egyptians and get your diesel. I would not invest in an extra tank, probably rather in some jerry cans (if you can store them).

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Hi guys iif you are here for the Monday ferry we should meet up for Beer..
We are in Aswan waiting forr the ferry for monday 26th it takes 17hrs. there is a barge going on Saterday or sundayfor the cars. About 3 days to pick up the car.
fuel okay in aswan for tourests use the Army petrol staion at the far end of the cornich. Ask.
Sudan Visa okay to renew get new or extend here. On the same day for extensions. The date given is the date of entry. Then when entering you are given one month travel.
We have a good hotel here Ocheda St George. Good spot wfi and a place near to park.
We are using Mr abouda as a fixer. He is okay but we could not get on the ferry last Monday. the vehical barge was broken/late.
You need to leave at least two days to get things organised.
Our Egypt Phone number is 01158114260
look forward to having a and let us know if you need us to do anything here for you. Waiting another week is a long long time but the weather and food are great!
Take care
Diana and Colin
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