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While a second passport COULD be a solution if the authorities are lenient, it will be of no use if they decide to play it strict. You will need to use the same passport to exit Egypt as the one you entered on, and the first thing the Sudanese will start looking for is the Egyptian exit stamp. If there is none, especially in a virgin passport, that will immediately raise suspicions.
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well you defenitely have a point here. so I use my old one and rip one site off, I mean we have like 48 sites in a passport and i have only 15 left without stamps. I kinda wonder how they will find out in sudan that a page is missing?
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Hi Ruulio,

You have interesting ideas! Maybe you should try this before because it is not so easy to rip out a page without leaving a trace in the passport.

It is probably easier to go from Israel to Jordan first and then continue to Egypt by ferry. That will bring two stamps in between and the Jordanian entry stamp on the Northern border with Israel might not be as easily identifiable. The Jordanians are also more lenient to accept that you enter with one passport and leave the country with another.

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While a second passport COULD be a solution if the authorities are lenient, it will be of no use if they decide to play it strict. You will need to use the same passport to exit Egypt as the one you entered on, and the first thing the Sudanese will start looking for is the Egyptian exit stamp. If there is none, especially in a virgin passport, that will immediately raise suspicions.

You dont need a 2nd Passport for that. Isreal don`t stamp your passport on request, and attach a sidepaper (which they will stamp) which can be removed on exit.

Here is a collection of travellers who are recently on the east route, who will show you what options do you have, and how they did it in detail.



Article in English:
Howto reach or avoid egypt on your transafrica over the east

Article in German:
Anreise-Optionen für die Ostroute Afrikas

Unfortunately travelling through Libya don`t look like a real option currently.

These Informations about the Iskenderun, Haifa, Damietta ferry looks a bit misleading. The language barrier does not make it easier, although here now two people have already asked via email.

I suggests that one these who want to book soon, use a phone call (cheap with Skype to Phone) to get a clear answer, to verify that your call partner has sufficent english skills. It would be helpful to get an conclusively valid anwer there!

Most of us just want to cross from Iskenderun to Damietta with a single ticket. This should be still possible, when we read the news of the ferry website carefully... It looks too possible, when you use google translate on the turkish website..


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Isreal don`t stamp your passport on request, and attach a sidepaper (which they will stamp) which can be removed on exit.
The problem is NOT the Israeli stamp. Sudan is one of the few places where if they find any evidence that you have been to Israel (eg. a pack of chewing gum with Hebrew inscription...) they may refuse you entry. An Egyptian entry stamp in Taba is a clear give-away, but also Nuweiba will raise suspicions because these days it is unlikely that anyone came through from EU via Syria or Iraq...

This being said, my understanding is that this is being more strictly looked at at Khartoum airport, Wadi Halfa is more relaxed...

As for removing a page from a passport, maybe not a good idea... The pages are numbered for a reason, and any missing will render the passport invalid. Mine is pretty heavily used, and a crack started developing along the hinge of the plastic photo and details page. Even though the page was still solidly attached I started having problems in places (though admittedly, not in Sudan, but in the fine land the name of which I dare not utter here for fear of not being allowed into Sudan the next time...).
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Last year I removed a page from my passport with an Israel stamp because I had to enter Iran. No problems, no questions asked, neither on one of the many other (difficult) borders (like Turkmenistan) we had to cross. But perhaps I was just Lucky
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