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I am a bit confused about the state of play in Niger - do I need a guide for the lot or just bits (like the Tenere and Air which are both high on my list). I am sure that the normal bunch of paperwork will do....

could anyone clarify?
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A guide is usually required ....
......in the Tenere and for north of Agadez into the Aire. I had no problem (Jan 2006) travelling freely between Niamey - Adadez, Niamey - Zinder by SNTV public bus, and was not told I had to have a guide or permit for these areas. While in Agadez, I organised a trip to Iferuoane (via Arlit) by SNTV bus and hitching, and was strongly advised to have a travel permit. I organised one through Sidi Mohammed (at Hotel Agreboun in Agadez). So while for this route I did not have to have a guide, a permit/travel plan was needed -and it was looked at by the police at Iferouane.

For my trip out to Dirkou/Bilma by truck, and Bilma-Agadez by camel, a guide was required -and the guide was required to report to the police with me in Dirkou and Bilma. On my camel trip into the Aire (Jan 2002) I also had to have a guide.

I think Niger is sensitive to 'losing' tourists, and so a guide in these remote parts is required, and probably a wise move in any case.
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thanks for the info, we now have a guide lined up from Agadez through the Tenere and Air then up to Algeria, then another guide will be with us until Tunisia. Good thing is that both guides sound like they are up for exploring the desert a bit. I had to get a guide when I was in Turkmenistan and the second one they hooked me up with was a riot! He took me on a midnight run through 5km of dunes to find a buring crater full of natural gas - immense!

now I just need to get the money, anyone got some tights and a sawn-off I can borrow??
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I'm planning a trip, by motorbike,January 2008 down the west coast and back up through Algeria. I'd be grateful to hear what sort of cost is involved hiring a guide from the Niger/Algeria border and do they have to accompany you all the way to the Tunisian border?Thanks, John
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As far as I understand it a guide is only required north of Ghardai, but coming from the South you require a guide from the border, and that company is then responsible for your safety whilst in Algeria so will insist on accompanying you to your exit (and charging you for it....). We have been quoted 135 euros a day for a guide with 4x4, fuel etc, plus 2 days for the guide to get to and from us
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