 |
|
7 Jul 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
|
|
|
Mauretania Mali X-XI 2011
Hi all,
me (in HJ61) and Bartosz (in LR110) are plannig to make a loop around Mauratania and Mali. We will be starting at Tetouan around 16.X.2011. The tip will last about one month.
Our route: Poland>Tetouan>Larache>Rabat>Casablanca>Marrakech> Agadir>Goulimine>Layoune>
Nouadhibou>Choum>Atar>Passe d’Amogjar>Ouadane>Chinguetti>Terjit>Akjoujt>Noua kchott>Nara> Sokolo>Niono>Massina>Djenne>Mopti>Bandiagara
>Segou>Bamako>Dideni>Diema>Nioro>Ayoun el Atrous>Kiffa>Matmata>Alak>Nouakchott>Nouadhibou>La youne>Goulimine>Agadir>
Marrakech>Casablanca>Rabat>Larache>Tetouan>Poland.
We are looking to share costs, can carry bikes and gear.
Tomasz
|
20 Jul 2011
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1
|
|
|
Sahara Oct/Nov 2011
Hi Tomasz,
Me and a friend are planning on being down that part of the world around the same time, although doing a straight run from Morocco to Ghana via Mauri, Senegal, Mali and BF, probably passing N/S through Mauritania. We'll be in a 4x4 with not a lot of space but happy to drive in convoy. Would be good to discuss routes, dangers etc at some point. It's a drive I've done several times over the past few years.
Cheers,
Tom
|
27 Jul 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
|
|
|
Mauri
Hi Tom,
our route in Mauri: Nouadhibou>Choum>Atar>Passe d’Amogjar>Ouadane>Chinguetti>Atar>Tidjikja. If you drive along with us we may try to do Atar> Tidjikja together.
Anyway, we will be glad if you join us at any section of the route.
We should be in Tangier on 17.X at 3 p.m.
Cheers
Tomek
|
17 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Jan 1970
Posts: 1
|
|
|
Hooking up in Nouakchott
Hi Chaps,
We plan to leave london on 24.10.11 and travel down south to Nouakchott, hopefully getting there around 7.11.11. We'd be keen to hook up and head East into Mali. We are on a F800GS and a 1200GS.
Nic and Henry
|
18 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
|
|
Hi Tomek and Tom. I'm also planing going into this part at same time. Traveling alone with BMW R-1200gsA. After Atar my plane is going south to Nouakchott, Senegal, Guinea Bissau, north to Gambia and on end to Dakar. I'm very interested can I join on route in Mauri: Nouadhibou>Choum>Atar>Passe d’Amogjar>Ouadane>Chinguetti>Atar. I have some previous Africa expirience from 2009 Namibia 3500km gravel ride. Not riding on deep sand more than 5km yet. Please any answer on my eMail: tzt@t-2.net
Regards, Tomaz
p.s. (3x T  )
|
18 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
|
|
|
Mauretania and Mali
Hi Nic, Henry & Tomaz,
we would be glad if you join us, the only condition for you is beeing at the right place at the right time and going in the same way 
P.S. Nic and Henry- If you give me your e-mail we might contact in Africa.
Regards
Tomek
Last edited by Tomek; 18 Aug 2011 at 19:33.
Reason: Wrong name of the recipient
|
19 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
|
|
|
Questions to anyone:
I am interested for track condition information on route Chinguetti > Ouadane. Is it possible to pass both way's with loaded BMW R-1200gsA? It seams to me that track Nouadhibou > Choum even with 4x4 support should be extreme hard or ... ?
Back up plan: Does anyone know for guided tours from Atar to Ben Amera and Chinguetti to Ouadane?
Later I will travel south to Senegal and Gambia. Is it possible to get Gambia visa on the border? I heard many problems entering into Senegal several times with vehicle. In my option 3x: 1x Mauri/Sen and 2x Gamb/Sen. Do I need multiple Senegal Carnet for bike?
Last one for Morocco: Any track info for route Zagora > Foum-Zguid ... direction Tata, Guelmim.
Many thanks, Tom
|
19 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: London
Posts: 542
|
|
|
Nouadhibou to Choum is possible, but would be extremely hard work on a 1200, unless you are a very good sand rider. I have done it a couple of times with soft luggage on a KTM 640 Adv, which is fine, but I personally wouldn't want to do it with anything heavier.
Chingetti - Ouadane via the main plateau route should be ok for a 1200. I haven't done the sandy track via the plain, so can't comment on that.
Gambian visa used to be available on the border for commonwealth passports. Not sure re: other passports.
I haven't done Zagora - Foum Zguid, so can't comment, but the track from Mhamid to Foum Zguid is reasonably interesting, although it is a bit rocky at times. Chris Scott's Sahara Overland has full route descriptions of both tracks.
|
19 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
|
|
|
Zagora > Foum-Zguid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey
Last one for Morocco: Any track info for route Zagora > Foum-Zguid ... direction Tata, Guelmim.
|
No sand. At first it is quite bone-shaking. Then it changes into a gravel road, but watch out! the road is washed out in many places so do not go to fast(there are very deep ditches which are not always clearly visible from distance).
Ride safe
Tomek
|
20 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
|
|
Many thank's Matt. A lot of usefull informations. I will prefere to use train getting into Choum. Just Gambian visa on the border should remain still open. Do I need multiple motorbike Carnet for Senegal entrance? Do you mean this track from Chinguetti to Ouadane?
Also many tkank's to you Tomek for Morocco info. Probably I will start from Genoa same day, same ferry. With which liner you will travel? Can you forward it's web site, please? I'm from Ljubljana, Slovenia and over 30 years in Ham Radio (S59W).
P.s.: In our Ministry of foreign Affairs site said it is very dangerous traveling into south Senegal (robbery, ...). Is that true or another false alarm?
|
23 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Posts: 142
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
Hi Chaps,
We plan to leave london on 24.10.11 and travel down south to Nouakchott, hopefully getting there around 7.11.11. We'd be keen to hook up and head East into Mali. We are on a F800GS and a 1200GS.
Nic and Henry
|
Chaps,
Fokke and I are doing the West coast heading to South Africa from Morocco. I will be leaving London around the 6th October and meeting Fokke in Morocco on 1 November (Ill be taking in some of France and possibly Germany...hense the 3 weeks ride). Im on an XT600E and Fokke a DRZ400s.
Not sure of your plans but may be interesting to hook up ? - we will be acquiring our visas on route.
|
23 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 456
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey
Questions to anyone:
I am interested for track condition information on route Chinguetti > Ouadane. Is it possible to pass both way's with loaded BMW R-1200gsA?
|
As Matt says, the hard piste on your map is no problem.
Can you ride your 1200 in the sand? The sandy piste leaving via the Oued is much more fun, but difficult if you are loaded up. If you attempted it the sensible thing would be to leave your panniers in Chinguetti.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey
It seams to me that track Nouadhibou > Choum even with 4x4 support should be extreme hard or ... ?
|
It's not extreme, but again it will be very difficult on a big loaded bike. If you can handle your 1200 in the sand and you have a 4x4 to carry your kit then you could do it.
You will need company for the NDB/Choum piste and Chinguetti/Ouadane via the Oued. It would be very dangerous to ride these routes alone.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey
Back up plan: Does anyone know for guided tours from Atar to Ben Amera and Chinguetti to Ouadane?
|
You can arrange this in Atar without any issue. speak to Justus at Bab Sahara.
|
23 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Ljubljana, Slovenia
Posts: 104
|
|
|
Thank's Richard. I never drove on sand with my bike. As wrote before just 20-30 km sand section with unloaded Yamaha XT-660 in Namibia. That time I made 3.500 km gravel roads. With my bike I did this June many gravel and rocky tracks in Albanian mountains. In next days I will replace original clutch with Touratech ceramic clutch.
Next week I have to meet Guido, italian guy, who had owned lodge in Atar. My friend Marco will introduce it to me. Marco made last year same time Paris - Dakar with bycicle. We will discuss about safety and what should be the best solution. I already decided to travel NDB/Choum with train. Tomek will be on this section at least 10 days before myself. Is the track Chinguetti/Ouadane as I posted before safe route for me alone or not? I was also thinking to drive this section (up and down) together with local 4x4 tourist jeep.
@Tomek: I already booked same ferry, so we should meet us on the ship.
p.s. Richard, great pictures!
|
23 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Manchester, UK
Posts: 456
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiskey
Is the track Chinguetti/Ouadane as I posted before safe route for me alone or not? I was also thinking to drive this section (up and down) together with local 4x4 tourist jeep.
|
I would say safe. There is daily traffic on this piste, no sand to speak of and it is clearly marked. If you fell or broke down somebody would find you before too long.
|
24 Aug 2011
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Kraków
Posts: 131
|
|
|
Atar> Tidjikja, Tidjikja>Tichit>Oulata>Nema
Hi Richard,
what would you say about the traffic on these pistes:
1.Atar> Tidjikja
2.Tidjikja>Tichit>Oulata>Nema
Tomek
P.S. Great photos.
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|
helps answer the question - Why Go? Inspirational stories by veteran travellers Greg Frazier (5 times RTW), Peter and Kay Forwood (193 countries), Tiffany Coates (Mongolia Mayhem) and Rene Cormier (University of Gravel Roads).
Get Ready! covers planning, paperwork, medical and many other topics! "Inspirational and Awesome!" See the trailer here!
What stuff do I need - riding gear, clothing, camping gear, first aid kit, tires, maps and GPS? What don't I need? How do I pack it all in? Lots of opinions from over 150 travellers!
break down language barriers, overcome culture shock, ship the bike and deal with breakdowns and emergencies."Just makes me want to pack up and go!" See the trailer here!
Grant demystifies the black art of Tire Changing and Repair to help you STAY on the road! "Very informative and practical." See the trailer here!
Ladies on the Loose! For the first time ever, a motorcycle travel DVD made for women, by women! These intrepid women share their tips to help you plan your own motorcycle adventure. They also answer the women-only questions, and entertain you with amazing tales from the road! Presented by Lois Pryce, veteran solo traveller through South America and Africa and author of 'Lois on the Loose', and 'Red Tape and White Knuckles.'
Cotton or synth sweat-wicking t-shirts with the cool Horizons Unlimited graphic on the front and a snappy slogan (changing every year) on the back.
Show your route on your panniers. Great conversation starter when you meet people on the road!
Motorcycle and travel books to inspire and inform you!
The definitive guide to planning your motorcycle adventure! This insanely ambitious 2-year project has produced an informative and entertaining 5-part, 18 hour video series. "The ultimate round the world rider's how-to!" MCN UK.
Linear Mode
