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... so all the more reason to get one in Dakar if possible.
Our last group were turned away from the Mauri embassy in Dakar as they don't have biometric facilities, so we had to get the visa for everybody at Rosso.

That may change going forward but this was the case in May 2017.
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We got our 2 [Mali] visas at the [Mori-] Mali border going south in early October without issue, for 55€ each. It took about 20 mins, done quite professionally. Only single entry visas available at the border though.

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Entering Mauritania with 2 Passports From Same Country

Hi, I had a quick but maybe unusual question, and was hoping someone here could shed some light on it. Next month I'll be traveling to Nouakchott for work, and I was wondering if immigration officials at the airport have a problem with passengers carrying 2 passports (they're from the same country- I don't have dual citizenship). Due to the amount of travel I have to do that requires visas, I recently obtained a second passport to make the process easier, and on this trip, I'll need to carry both (I'll be arriving from Cameroon, and that visa is in a separate passport than the Mauritanian one). Thanks!
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I have 2 for the same reason, but you definitely don't want to announce you are travelling with 2, especially from the same country.
Owning 2 is of course not illegal,l but I think travelling with 2 is, in most places. Arrive and leave on the same passport.
I would have thought it's unlikely they will look for an exit stamp from Cameroon on arrival in RIM.
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Hmm- thanks for the feedback. In this case, would it be better to just obtain a visa on arrival at the airport? I really like to get all of the necessary entry paperwork sorted out before I leave, but it seems like that route would be more complicated in this instance.
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We got our 2 [Mali] visas at the [Mori-] Mali border going south in early October without issue, for 55€ each. It took about 20 mins, done quite professionally. Only single entry visas available at the border though.

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Was this at the Gogui border?
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Thanks for the chance to clarify this, I was referring to the Western Sahara/Muritania border at Guerguerat, not the Mali border. We got our Mali visas at the Mali Embassy in Nouakchott, applied in the morning and had the visas by lunchtime, both of us have Irish passports.

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Update on Border Crossing - Western Sahara to Mauritania @ Guerguerat

Two bicycle tourers here. Male with USA passport and female with Spanish Passport. We DID NOT get visas prior to arrival and cannot report on that process, but crossing for us was fairly painless and we had no issues from Western Sahara into Mauritania as of December 27th, 2017. Here is what to expect:

The "No Man's Land" is paved for a short stretch after you clear the Moroccan exit Visa and then gets pretty rough (sandy, rocky), but it is short - less than 1 km and also navigated by plenty of cars and huge 18 wheelers. No danger, No risk and you're through it in 30 minutes or less easy. Plenty of taxis if you are on foot.

Once you get to Mauritanian border buildings know that the cost was 55 euro for each of us (you need euro and if you were stuck without euro you could exchange for it at the border) and once we got into Mauritania it was a three step process that the police guided us through:

1) Cross border after the 1 km No Man's Land stretch and police will lead you to the small little building to the immediate left to write down some information from your passport.
2) They will point you to the building right next to this building where you enter in a lobby/courtyard area and hand your passport into the small room where guys are sitting with computers - this was the longest wait for us - about 45 minutes for our turn to come and then we sat down and they scan your fingerprints and take your photo. This is where we paid, then they printed and stuck the visa into our passport.
3) Lastly, a little further on but in the same border area on the left hand side you need to get the visa stamped. There is another police building, but again you will find it without trouble because you will be asked by police to see your visa and then they will point you to where to get the Stamp. That's it!
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Update on Mauritania Money

One other thing. I'm not sure how long this is going to last or what exactly is going on but plan on ATMs to not work on your international cards. They didn't work for us in Nouadhibou and now none are working here in Nouakchott either. From our hotel here and other guests only locals with bank branch cards can take out money - no Visa or Mastercard from foreign travelers are working at any bank ATM. My advice is to get what you think you need for the whole country at the border. The exchange they'll likely give for 400 to 1 euro isn't terrible. Its 420 to 1 in an exchange shop in Nouadhibou. People will change euro for you likely everywhere, but just make sure you have some, they will take US Dollars as well!

Another odd thing to note coming in. Starting on January 1st, 2018 they've changed the value of their currency, but are accepting both types til July. A 1000 ouguiya bill is now a 100, 2000 now 200, etc. You could receive both types. Just a heads up.

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Last week (jan, the 2th) - there were no problems to get the new mauritanian money out of an ATM at NDB with VISAcard.
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Europe To Senegal border: full Updated info

11/01/2018

Dear all,

i just returned from a very smooth overland trip from Europe to The Gambia without a Carnet de Passage!. During this trip i crossed Morocco, the Western Sahara, Mauritania and Senegal. I found that a lot of information available on forums like these are in need of an update, therefore i will do my best to be as complete as possible. (note that my experience can always differ from yours)

When driving throughout West Africa, knowledge of the French language is absolutely necessary. i would strongly advise anyone thinking about doing a similar trip to make sure to have at least basic proficiency in French.

Entering Morocco:
Entered by ferry through Tanger Med, late at night. we got stuck at customs there, it took us more than 6.5 hours to get through. we may just had some bad luck, but i would advise to do a good research on other possible points of entry (Cueta, Tanger ville). Get your temporary vehicle import permit beforehand on the internet (search for D16TER). Currency exchange and vehicle insurance available after customs. if using a European insurance with coverage in Morocco, be sure to get an ORIGINAL proof of insurance beforehand.
Fair warning: the Moroccan police love to hand out speeding tickets. i got 2. just keep to the speed limits, even in the lonely desert: they are everywhere! otherwise you'll have to pay on the spot, about 15 euros. The toll roads in morocco are truely amazing because they are not busy, cheap (15/20 euro total cost) and gas stations are frequent. southwards from Agadir the roads are just 1-lane, watch out for oncomming trucks. make sure to have fiches ready to hand out to the numerous police checkpoints. (Search for "fiche morocco" on google)
south of Tan-tan Diesel prices get a lot cheaper, about 0,70 eu/L. between Laayoune and dakhla there is a lot of road construction going on at the moment: calculate extra time for this stretch! Don't stray to far from the paved road, landmines may be present throughout the whole western Sahara, especially south of Dakhla.

Mauritania:

Leaving morocco:
Crossed the border at Bir Ghandouz. arrived around 12 o'clock in the afternoon. ask for instructions if you can not find the correct buildings.
- Stamp out your passport (left side of road).
-Afterwards, stamp out the temporary import permit in the building on the right-hand side, bring your carte grise! the moroccan police will probably search the car.
-Afterwards you'll have to go to the gendermerie building on the right, get another stamp, and then you leave morocco.

Entering Mauritania:
From morocco there is a 1km strecth of newly paved road through the so-called "no-mans land" after the paved road awaits a 0.5km stretch over sand and rocks (4x4 vehicle is advisable here). politely decline fixers trying to lead you through this small stretch: just drive on and wait on the end of the tarmac, and wait for another truck to show a good way. if not possible just stay in the visible tracks. don't be afraid of landmines, if you stay on the tracks you will be perfectly fine.
Once at the border a fixer will probably swamp you or act like he is an official. i used one, paid 10 euro's and actually found him to be very helpful. the choice is yours.
-Go to the police building on the left. they check your passport. nothing is to be paid here.
-Go to the customs building a bit further down on the same left side, it is a bit hidden so if you can't find it just ask. here you will get your visa. took me about 30 minutes, cost: 55 Euro.
-Afterwards, go trough the gate at the right side (it should say "douanes" or something similair on the arch above the gate) go straight into the building and ask for the temporary import permit (passavant). fill out the data on your vehicle registration card (or in french Carte grise) on a form and let it be stamped out. cost is 10 euro's.
-after that, get vehicle insurance on the left side of the road. i got ecowas insurance for the "whole" of West Africa, 20 or so days for 30 euro's. if you can get the ecowas insurance, get the ecowas insurance! this way you don't have to get a new insurance in Senegal, The Gambia, etc.
when all is done, you are free to go! have some fiches ready for Mauritania.

A lot of governments advise against travelling eastwards into Mauritania. if you stay around the coastal highway, bear in mind that Nouadhibhou and Nouackchott are the best places to spend a night. The road quality on the first stretch between nouadhibou and nouackchott is fairly bad, watch out for potholes. further south the road gets better. south of Nouackchott the road gets very bad, and directly under Nouackchott there is a lot of road construction going on. calculate extra time.
if heading for Diama, the first 30 km of the road is brand new tarmac. ask for directions to diama. you have to cross a 30km sand piste through a nature reserve. it is beautiful, don't forget to take your camera out. the piste itself is quite rough, adjust your speed. afterwards you need to pay for the park entry, 7 euros per person. after that, head for the mauritanian side of the border!


Leaving Mauritania:
-head for the first office on the left. stamp out your temporary import permit. the cost is 10 euros, ask for a receipt (The rule in general is, No receipt = corruption!).
-Go to the next office on the left. stamp out your passports. they ask for 10 euros. do not pay! ask for a receipt, when they refuse, remind them that a receipt (recu in french) is necessary for government transactions. by doing this i got away without paying.
- A man is guarding a gate there, asking about 2 euro's for a "tax de commune". pay them and continue.

Drive over the dam to the Senegalese side! Many people dread this crossing because of the many stories about corruption here [but Rosso ferry is much worse]. crossing was quite expensive for me (we did not have a carnet de passage!) so expect to pay a substantial sum. on the plus side, it was very desolate and easy-going and the process took about 1 hour.

... Senegal and Gambia covered here


So that was my story. I hope many future overlanders find this information to be usefull. if planning on doing this trip, i can highly recommend it! It was amazing.

Feel free to send an E-mail if you have any questions. In case your car will stay in the Gambia, i am willing to share the contact information of the officials who helped me out of trouble.

Good luck,
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We are heading to Mautitania. .has anyone hav latest visa new? Will head to Rabat to confirm with em assy will post update.
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Latest visa update 5.2.2018

We stopped at the embassy in Rabat. The following IS my direct experience and as we were coming from Tanger med our stop was for peace of mind as anything else.

Visa 30 Day - 690dh
A payment request is issued which you then go and pay over the counter in cash at the local BCME branch ( across the main road from the embassy.
You will also need a photocopy of your pasportizace, 2 passport photos.
Then they will take your fingerprints and Digital photo before issuing a visa at 14h the next Day.

IT was suggested that the border option also works but if anything were to fail you would be told to go to Rabat....so go and figure...

I will post a current update from the border once we get There.
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We crossed the border on 8.2.18.

All parametric visa facilities work. Cost is 55 euro. So if you are bypassing Rabat the border will issue a visa on the spot. The longest delay might be a day if they lose connection, as told to us by a fixer.
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