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piste Siwa - oase bahareyya

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does anyone know what the condition is from the road between the oase SIwa and the oase Bahareyya (or something, I don't know how to write that).
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Siwa to Bahariya

Hi Brend
The piste from Siwa to Bahariya Oasis (Bawiti) is not difficult in a 4x4.
I did this journey in the reverse (Northbound) direction from Bawiti to Siwa 3 years ago.
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Don’t forget to visit the amazing ‘Areg Gorge’ which is a short way out of Siwa. It’s great for camping and no one has ever been there…
Don’t drive down too far into the gorge unless you have a back-up vehicle; it’s all below sea level and could be treacherous.
Take fixes regularly, there are no landmarks anywhere on this route.
Always take GPS fixes if you leave the piste.
Areg Gorge is 2km North of the piste and, being a land depression, invisible until you reach it.
The piste from Siwa to Bawiti was rough but driveable; at times we left it and drove alongside.
The map describes it as ‘ensablée,’ but it’s not that bad.
Check your police permissions carefully – this is not a regular route and police are suspicious.
They used their radio telephone at the check-point outside Bawiti to check our permits.
We did not have a police observer with us.
Fuel available at Siwa and good market at Bawiti.
I can’t remember the fuel station at Bawiti, perhaps another traveller can advise.
Otherwise call back and I’ll search out my day-log.
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Siwa - Bahareya

Its a good track- watch for sharp rocks this time of year (sandstorm season) - the locals call it the Road of Knives, and with reason - some stretches are a tyre-killer. Siwa is lovely, though 'modernising' sadly. Bahareya and Farafra are great places, Farafra more so really. If you are feeling adventurous you can carry on from Bahareya to Fayoum over the desert, though unless you loop south and follow an old caravan route to Beni Suwef and hook north it's all off-piste driving, and the washouts from the Jebel Qatrani massif west of Cairo make the going very rough unless you have a vehicle with good axle articulation. Last time I was on that route I took a Defender 110 and a Wrangler - the Wrangler found the going very difficult.
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