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Price for Toyota Landcrouiser

Hi I will be travelling in Marocco and Mauretania from December till March. By the end of this time i will be probably short of money so i plan to sell my Toyota Landcrouiser 61 in Naukchot and continue too travel south(Mali , Senegal)Can anyone tell me how much I can get for my car in Naukchot?
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probably more than you paid for it!!
depends on condition etc obviously but TLC's have a premium price. Start at least double what you paid for it, maybe even trebble and haggle down from there. start at what you think is a ridiculous price, you can always come down, start too low and you can't go up.
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thanks a lot. Do u know what is the best and safe place 2 sale car in Naukchot.
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no, I've never sold one there, I have always gone further south. there are probably dealers who are safer. At least with a dealer you know where he hangs out, but it will drop the price. If you sell privately try and go with the guy to the bank to get the money out so you know it's not counterfeit. basically just be careful, same as at home, scams abound!!
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Thanks a lot once again . One more question , if i decide not 2 sale my car in Mauretania and go all the way south to Mali do I have any chance to sale it there? Do u think its a good idea?
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Don't know, but I am sure someone out there will!!
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Hi I will be travelling in Marocco and Mauretania from December till March. By the end of this time i will be probably short of money so i plan to sell my Toyota Landcrouiser 61 in Naukchot and continue too travel south(Mali , Senegal)Can anyone tell me how much I can get for my car in Naukchot?
Cheers Mariana

You need a stamp (was a red triangle some years ago) that cancel your car from the passport...
It's done by Central Douane of NKC.

If you sell it in NKC, it is better to combine the trip to Rosso with a Police man or a military one, within his car... it's safer to avoid hassles and the larger number of controls along the tamrac

Good luck!
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Hi Miriana,

If you are planning to visit Mali anyway I would suggest selling you HJ61 there. With the fuel prices in West Africa this wont cost you much extra. Mali has no formalities concerning car selling. So no hassle with stamps in passports. You only have to buy a local insurance +/- 40 euro.

To my knowledge Mali has offers the highest prices for a TLC HJ61 in West Africa. In Bamako prices range from 6000 to 8000 euro. Ad another 500 euro if you sell it in Mopti. Al depending on the state of the car of course. West African car buyers don't like cars with removed windows and rear seats so take these if you can. a nice car stereo with bling bling speakers will do wonders to Before you make the deal get clear if, how much and to whom you are paying commission. Between 2 and 5 % is normal in Mali.

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Thank u so much
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Hi Marianna

It's hard to say what the prices are anywhere. The easiest thing to do is to decide beforehand what you want for the car. Don't get fooled by thinking that you can get a better price somewhere else. If someone offers you the price you think is OK, thrn take it.

Another place to try in Nouakchott is Auberge Sahara, also run by a french lady called Kania. Try here and Olivia to get a sounding of how much the 4x4 is worth.

It's also better not to tell anyone that you are prepared to sell, the prices they then offer may be more realistic. Either way you will get a lot of advice beforehand about how, where and for how much to sell it.

This business is full of sharks so watch it. You will only find out afterwards what the best advice is/was.

You also said that you will sell the car when you are short of money. This is not really a good idea they will know this in advance if you are in need of cash and use this against you.

Be careful but enjoy.

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It's worth mentioning than (as in Europe) if in good condition HJ61s are much more sought after by desert tour operators (eg: in Agadez) than a regular old HJ60 - the crazily high prices mentioned by Dohan are not unusual.

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other brands?

What about other brands of 4x4 (Pajero, patrol?) Does anybody have experience/ heard how easy/profitable can they be sold in West Africa?
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Does nobody question the practice of selling very old cars for ridiculous prices to people far less rich than we are?

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Does nobody question the practice of selling very old cars for ridiculous prices to people far less rich than we are?
Andres, you are absolutely right. It is bad and it must be stopped! Cars are ugly, smelly and dangerous. So if the rich people stop selling them at ridiculous prices maybe they will be replaced with carts pulled by nice, cuddly donkeys.
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Andres, I think you ought to pop down to Mori to see for yourself.
There's a lot of poverty, it's true; and ironically the generosity of the people I have encountered increases with the level of poverty and the distance from the cities.

However the people who buy cars from Europeans are very frequently considerably better off than the person selling the car.
The prices are dictated by market forces, that means there is a demand.

We only discover we are poor when we have to deal with money every day, when we live in clusters and depend on others to bring food to our supermarkets in trucks, when there are bills to pay because we haven't collected our fuel ourselves because we're too busy earning not quite enough to pay someone else to collect it for us; or when we've bought a house that costs too much because we want to live near where we're working for only just enough money to pay back the house and the heating and all the people who bring us our food.

Oh dear, that felt good.
Our version of wealth is a vicious circle/trap, what we call poverty is bloody hard for those living it. There are no solutions that don't create their own problems, you can't just give to reduce poverty so taking a means of transport into a country whose occupants lives are improved by being able to travel is a help.
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