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Old 22 Sep 2006
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Hi Marianna

It's hard to say what the prices are anywhere. The easiest thing to do is to decide beforehand what you want for the car. Don't get fooled by thinking that you can get a better price somewhere else. If someone offers you the price you think is OK, thrn take it.

Another place to try in Nouakchott is Auberge Sahara, also run by a french lady called Kania. Try here and Olivia to get a sounding of how much the 4x4 is worth.

It's also better not to tell anyone that you are prepared to sell, the prices they then offer may be more realistic. Either way you will get a lot of advice beforehand about how, where and for how much to sell it.

This business is full of sharks so watch it. You will only find out afterwards what the best advice is/was.

You also said that you will sell the car when you are short of money. This is not really a good idea they will know this in advance if you are in need of cash and use this against you.

Be careful but enjoy.

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It's worth mentioning than (as in Europe) if in good condition HJ61s are much more sought after by desert tour operators (eg: in Agadez) than a regular old HJ60 - the crazily high prices mentioned by Dohan are not unusual.

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the paradox
Paradox
Due to all these exports (and the normal factors) the prices in europe rise as these cars are getting scarse and become mythical oldtimers. At the same time the prices in Africa (and South America) stay more or less the same (high!). Thus finding a nice one for a small price and making the most profit is getting more and more difficult, and it will take a while before the prices in Africa will rise more than they are used to pay in the past.
That's probably why you see more and more 80's finding their way 'cause their price is dropping in europe.
BTW same goes for the hilux, every old model is great export, but the prices are going through the roof here in europe.

Mariana:
I don't know how your experience is in buying a car from secondhandcardealers but remember you probably will selling it to a .... secondhandcardealer! (mostly with the 'aid' of a commisionair)
BTW If you don't sell it there you can always drive back and sell it in europe, cause prices are high here too.

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It’s a simple equation,
It’s a simple equation,

Here is the typical life story of a HJ60. They bugger around in Europe until the owner decides the repairs and taxes get too much. A local car dealer will by it and sells it to an export dealer near one of the main ports in Europe. There a African car dealer buys is and ships it to west Africa from there it is put on a boat witch travels up the Niger to the sub Sahara buyers. The new owner pays import tax. For the next 20 years the HJ60 gets to drive around tourists and smuggle cigarettes.

Example A typical hj61 in the north of Sweden cost 2000 euro. Transport and two car dealers later will set it in Rotterdam for 4000 euro. After shipping it the hj61 will be worth 4600 on the coast in west Africa. Transport to Sub Sahara will make it 5000. Add the import tax and the profit of the local dealer and the market price will be 6000 euro.

Al these steps cost euros the more steps you bypass the more is left 

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dear all, which one is in your opinion the more convinient place to sell an HJ 60 between Mali(bamako or Mopti/gao), Niger(Niamey or Agadez), or Chad(Ndjamena)?
I would like to make the deal this winter, looking for the best merket.
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Decide first of all how much you want for it and sell it to the first person who has that amount. You might be told it's worth more down the road but this isn't usually the case.

If you do start to drive around selling it then word tends to spread, they will know how much you refused in the last place etc. etc.

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Isn´t the carnet tariff taxes in Mauritania 110% the value of the vehicle, while in Mali it is 55%?

you don't need a carnet for mauri!!
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