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>Southern Algeria recently close up a bit to overlander. Is it just a case of getting a guide to escort

The guide is compulsory anyway; Djanet-Tam is currently closed for tourism


>Entry to Algeria from Niger:
>So is it the case that the only permitted border post is from Arlit to Tam?
At Ain-Guezzam, you leave Niger at Assamaka

>Algeria to Niger:
>But is it possible to do this in reverse (Djanet to Chirfa) accross the >Tenere?
No-No

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Thanks Yves, I need to re-jig thr plan for Niger/Algeria then.

Anyone got anything on the rest of the route? The key concerns are:

1. Libyan side of Jebel Uweinat
2. Egyptian Gilk Kebir
3. Sudan to Chad
4. Tibetsi and Endenni in Chad
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Hi,

>Southern Algeria recently close up a bit to overlander. Is it just a case of getting a guide to escort

The guide is compulsory anyway; Djanet-Tam is currently closed for tourism


>Entry to Algeria from Niger:
>So is it the case that the only permitted border post is from Arlit to Tam?
At Ain-Guezzam, you leave Niger at Assamaka

>Algeria to Niger:
>But is it possible to do this in reverse (Djanet to Chirfa) accross the >Tenere?
No-No

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So I would be deported if I showed up in Djanet (or even Tam) instead of In Guezzam? With Niger exit stamps in good order (but perhaps not from Assamaka)?
That's quite a trip, trans-african. Wish you success. Hope to do Chad and more of Niger in my lifetime, but right now the risk is not just being robbed (or worse), but also not being allowed entry.
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As far as I am aware, atm it is possible to travel Westwards from, Khartoum to N'Djamena as far as legalities are concerned. Naturally, security is the major concern, but atm, Chad seems to be in one of the many "troughs" it experiences from time to time.

As for Niger, I am not too sure and I'd like some more advice from people if they have it. I heard that there have been a few bandit attacks on western tourists around Zinder and in the Air recently.

Any news on either Chad or Niger would be appreciated.
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Re Chad I get the feeling it's thawing out a bit, so now might be the time (is this what you mean by trough?) - at least for a simple transit to Niger. Up north not so sure and never will be. Faya Ennedi may be OK (it never was that bad).

I think the era for such see-it-all trips in the Sahara may well be passed (and it did not exist for long) so I would be content with something less ambitious - say Libya and Gilf and Sinai over 2-3 months. You could achieve that without taking any great risks or visiting too dodgy areas and see a lot of amazing Sahara. A lot less stressful but still a big adventure and a great use of your truck.

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Thanks Chris, and yes "trough" did mean a thaw in Chad.

What's your take on the Tibetsi? I understand an Italian couple were kidnapped on the way into Niger from here?

Also, when were see-it-all trips the thing to do so to speak? I would like to do a big trip, though I can certainly see that several smaller ones would be logistically easier.

Also, any info on the Atar to Chegga post would be helpful too!
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The Italian couple I presume you mean 2006 - I think there is always a danger in such border areas, now more than ever. Commercial kidnapping in Chad runs back to the 70s at least.

see-it-all - well there was rarely a time when all 10 countries were accessible like they are now - the 70s and 80s I suppose, the era of the west-east crossings.

Atar to Chegga (RIM) you can manage - plenty of army up there now I am told. Chegga into Alg no one's done for 10-15 years and now more than ever it's a trafficing corridor. One of last groups (K Darrs tour coming from Alg) got turned over near Guelb and he spent a long time diligently tracking down the clients' robbed 4x4s (a cop in Mali ended up with one...).

Darr never got his lorry pinched and, if the old Dakar is anything to go by the good thing with a big lorry is they ransack and abandon it pretty soon - so you will get it back.

Enjoy Libya and Gilf, I would. Sudan and then across the Sahel in such a conspicuous truck is bound to attract attention.

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Thanks Chris, I believe K Daerr crossed Chad into Sudan and was unscathed, so it does seem do-able.

Regarding Chegga, security aside, is it legal to cross into Algeria even with a pre-arranged guide to meet you, also, where is immigration/customs done (RIM and Algeria) by using that port of entry?

As that short corridor (Chegga to Alg) is trafficing, would it not be that you would be largly left to your own devices, surely smugglers are not interested in a western tourist when they have bigger fish to fry. Surely an Army presence in the area is good?
Do you have a link for Daerrs travel group from Alg to Chegga etc..?

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