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is it safe to visit atar we are grup of 6 with 3 teenage boys in 3 land rovers
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Atar and the surrounding area is regarded as safe. As always keep an ear to the ground, but there is no cause for worry.
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I was in Atar this jan. It was wery quiet. Planning going there next jan too (own car), so maybe we meet up.
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Hi Grove

We will be in RIM after jan 1 we are 3 discoverys with Irish reg plates it is hard to miss us ........ what will you drive

Did you tun left at RIM Maroc border and follow piste along side railway or what route did you take to Atar ?
Will this be your route next jan ?
Is there another piste to Atar from the north from Layounne to Bir Morrein and south to Atar ?


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Hi Maurice
I will be in RIM around the second week i jan in a LR 110 td5.
In practice there are only two turist routes, along the railway and down south from Chooum og the tarred road to Nouakchott and from there to Atar (asy driving). Done both. I think I will go along railroad, best with min. two cars. Done it alone with a local guide.
The piste You mention is not possible.
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Hi Grove

We may see you beside railway next jan

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Is there another piste to Atar from the north from Layounne to Bir Morrein and south to Atar ?


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Hi,

There is, but the border is closed.
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We'll be going to the festival in timbuktu on 9th to 11th Jan and so will also be traveling the atar route around 1st Jan 09. We are traveling in a Toyota Troupie. Pleased to meet up with others going some or all that route
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Hi,
I also think about travel to Mauratina, but isn't it too cold in Jan ? What festival will take place in Timbuktu?
We wonder if it's safe to go there with our 5 years old son (was on desert a few times already).
We got Defender 90.
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Festival au Desert - Essakane near Tombouctou
Hi there

The Festival au Desert is a malian music festival. Been going about 8 years. Apparently it is a bit touristy nowadays, however, possibly still worth going to. There is another one in Segou in Feb which is supposed to be better. I have not been to either, but have traveled in that area before. The weather is OK. Better than UK and Poland in Jan! I would think that it would be quite safe to take a youngster.

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Hi John,
Which way will you go there and how many cars are supposed to go?

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Hi PIotr

We will pick up visas in Rabbat for Mauritania (multiple entry) and Mali. (single entry).

Go through Western Sahara to Mauritania.

Turn left to Atar and Chinguetti. From there take Chris Scott's R10 route to Tidjikja.

From there we would like to take Chris Scott's R11 to Nema and go south to Mali and Bamako, but fuel restrictions (or prices) and the need for another traveling vehicle(s) might restrict us to going from Tidjikja south to Kiffa and then west to Ayoun el' Atrous to cross the border to Bamako.

Bamako to Douentza is all paved road until heading north to Tombouctou.

Does anyone know of a better route?

There will be three of us - My wife and I and a Jack Russel dog.

We have a well prepared Toyota troupie, however despite considerable 4x4 experience, desert travel is relatively new to us.

how about you?

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Hi John,
...hmm your planned travel to Nema is what I wanted to do in 2002 in group of 3 Defenders. Unfortunately two others droped out so I decided not to go alone .
I have a lot of offroad experiences but mostly in Europe. The only desert expiriences I have are from Tunisia. In November I will go to Libya with friends of mine (around ten cars) so I will have some expirience after that. Anyway I think two cars is not enough to your trip.
What is the estemated time for your whole trip ?

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Hi Piotr

Only just starting to put a plan together, however our thoughts are that we will leave in early Dec with a plan to arrive in Tombuctou about 9th of Jan. That is about 30 to 34 days for the trip descibed in my last.

VERY roughly that means about 10 days to get to the Mauri border. 15 days of travel to cover the Chris Scott routes, leaving 9 days or so to get to Tombuctou.

2 years ago I returned from Mopti to the UK comfortably in 3 weeks.

It does help if you do not have to stop over in Bamako for a Mauri visa on the return trip

Our return to the UK will take appox 3 weeks.

3 vehicles would make a good trip. With less vehicles, or traveling alone we would cut out R11.

Anybody out there with R10 or R11 experience? Please chip in with your comments

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Hi John,
it seems to last very long for me. Too long. I'm not sure if we could go for more then 30 days .
Anyway, the idea is still interesting for me. Let's stay in touch.

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