Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > North Africa
North Africa Topics specific to North Africa and the Sahara down to the 17th parallel (excludes Morocco)
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Trans Sahara Routes.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25 Jul 2010
Banned
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 29
Wadi Halfi Ferry and Roads

Dear All, just about to start the bit from Egypt to Sudan and hoped a few questions could be answered.

Out of Wadi Halfi there are 2 roads, I am presuming most people go down the one by the Nile as it seems a little more populated.
If so is this road a track or is it loose sand just thinking about the tires I will need.
Finally does anybody know the process of booking the ferry, can I do it from Cairo and what do I need to do. If anybody has an idea about the prices as well for 1 person and 1 motorbike that would be great.

Thanks for help
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25 Jul 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: London and all over West Africa
Posts: 678
Wadi Halfa to Dongola (the Nile way) was nearly finished in 2008.....and Im now told its finished. So should be tar all the way. I have a friend who recently took the other way, and ended up driving on the rail tracks for quite a while due to the sand. I have only personally done the Nile road, and there is a quite a lot of villages and people about.

For the ferry, I always used Midhat to help (mixed opinions here on the Hubb about him, do a search and read the various posts). All I can say from a personal point of view is that for a reasonable fee he and his extended family will make your life a lot less stressful.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 27 Jul 2010
Banned
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 29
Hi Dave, Do I buy my ticket on arriving in Wadi Halfa or does that get done before. Expecting to arrive on the Saturday for the Monday sailing. Can you remember the prices of tickets and Midhat's fee. Thanks for the extra info.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 28 Jul 2010
Mony 63's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Sofia,Bulgaria
Posts: 117
ferry cost

Hi there,

Yes,we passed same route on June 15 on our way to Cape Town(currently Windhoek-Namibia).So,we payed 320 EGP per person 2nd class(deck) and 253 EGP per motorbike.Try to call Mr.Sallah-Nile River Transport Co. in advance to arrange 1st class cabin(if you want) his mobile-018 316926

For the road Wadi Halfa-Dongola don't worry fully tarred-brand new!,even Dongola-Karima tarred!

Safe ride!

Cheers,
Simon
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 28 Jul 2010
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Aus. Qld. Mackay
Posts: 474
Read this by Birdy

I know there are some older ones on here, but thought I would give a recent one.

Also, most people seem to pay a bit extra for the services of 'Mr Saleh,' on the Egypt side, and 'Magdi,' on the Sud side - which we didn't, so this is a DIY version. We crossed last week, and found it all a bit of a hassle, so thought I would post a walkthrough here, to help anyone following the same way who wants to do it themselves too.

1. Arrive in Aswan city and and find a hotel, the port is around 20k south, over the high dam, and the two old dams. The boat leaves on Monday, so getting in on a Sat or a Sun is a good idea, to give yourself plenty of time. Our boat officially left at 9 AM, but pulled out of the port at 7 PM. This is quite normal - you ask what time the ferry leaves, and most people laugh and tell you 'when it leaves.'

2. Go to 'traffic court.' (10 EP - 1GBP)

This is to attest that you haven't broken any rules, or had an accident. It sounds grand, but it is really just a broken down old building with no sign on, where you show your Egyptian Licence and V5, and sign a piece of paper, and they give you a receipt for the 'traffic police.' (Directions - coming from Aswan to the Dam, take the left before the blue petrol station (there's only the one) and follow the road down past the 'insurance hospital.' It is just behind the hospital. If in doubt, just keep asking for the 'mushtashfa ta'min (insurance hospital.))

3. Go to 'traffic police.' (0 EP - 0 GBP)

The traffic police is more dificult to find. Go back into Aswan City, and just keep asking for 'Shurta Muroor.' Everyone knows where it is. Take your plates off, and hand them, together with your Egyptian licence and the reciept from the 'traffic court,' to whatever police officer you can get the attention of through the scrum. He will give you the all important bit of paper you need to buy a ticket for the ferry.

4. Go to the port, buy ticket. (305 EP per person deck class - 30 GBP)

The ticket office is a little hole in a concrete pillbox 50 metres to the left of the port gates. There are two ticket salespeople, a very helpful man, who speaks beautiful Fusha, and great English, and a woman who is a complete cowbag and only grunts. The scrum to get to the window is typical Egypt, and resulted in 3 fist fights in the two hours I was waiting. If you fancy avoiding it, you can buy tickets from an office near the Tourist Information building in town. They are the same price, but they also sell cabin tickets there, for an extra 90 EP per person. The cabins are air conned, and comfortable, but you don't get the experience of sleeping with the best part of 500 Sudanese people on the deck. They are an awesome people, and well worth saving the money to sit up and chat and smoke with them.

4. Buy ticket for bike. (190 EP - 19 GBP)

Enter customs, go straight through and take the footgate on the right at the end. Go to the big building in front, and take the alley between that and the smaller building to its right, up the stairs and into the top office. You will probably get people telling you that you can't do this, but they won't stamp your carnet without having the ticket that you get here. Ignore them.

5. Sudan Customs. Carnet Stamp. (20 EP - 2 GBP)

We missed this and had to reenter illegally. It is in an unmarked door on your left past the stairs as you walk into the Customs building. There are some overlanders stickers on the door, but no sign saying what it is. When we arrived, the guy was sleeping, and took nearly two hours to find. Present the V5, passport, carnet and your newly acquired tickets, and there you go - Carnet stamp, done.

6. Exit Stamps. (25 piastres each person - 0.025 GBP)

Go out of the carnet room and go left into the exit stamp scum. Go first to the table on the left, to get a 'fiche,' or 'bitaaqa,' which is a card you write all your details on and get stamped at the window to the left of the table. The stamper will ask for bakshish, we gave 50 piastres and he seemed mollified. With this card and your passports, go to the busiest window, and get your exit stamp. Leave the hellhouse smiling like a madman and clutching your ticket to get out of Egypt!

7. Roll down towards the boat, and get 'registered.' (0 EP - 0 GBP)

On your left as you go through the first set of gates towards your waiting boat will be a line of people at a portacabin - they are waiting for 'tasjil,' or registration. Hand over all the bits of paper you have collected, and they will check all your tickets are in order, and, er..register you. They will ask for bakshish, but are easy to rebuff.

Well done. Roll down the slope, park your bike on the barge, and get on the ferry - find yourself a good place to sleep and guard it. Up against a bulkhead, right by the edge of the deck is best, as it means you don't get people stepping on you while you sleep. We did this, under the life rafts, which also gave us some sun shade.

Hope this helps, sorry about any typos, I'm tapping away on a proper lame keyboard, and can't be bothered to correct it!

Birdy
__________________
....rather Die Living.....than Live Dying !
www.globetrekkers.net.au
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9 Sep 2010
Gold Member
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 28
Mr Sallah's number

Anyone got Mr Sallahs number? I'm in Luxor trying to call him to get 6 bikes on Monday's ferry and I'm advised it should be a 10 digit number rather than the 9 posted in this thread.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12 Sep 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 28
Wow - super information thanks so much. This will hopefully save me a lot of stress!! I'm in Bulgaria at the moment, and will hopefully be making good use of this information mid October! Thanks again.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 16 Sep 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: yorkshire uk
Posts: 50
Mr Sallah's number i used on a UK mobile in Luxor was 0020 1831 60926.
Hope thats a help Coxy
coxmorganoverland.co.uk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 17 Sep 2010
Gold Member
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 28
Got it,.....many thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 17 Sep 2010
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 221
in case it helps anyone, we wondered about which route to take from Wadi Halfa south - we knew the nile road was tarred and had very conflicting reports about the road South East through the desert following the railway line.
curiosity got the better of me, and I can confirm it is all sand for a good 300KMs+ and quite slow going - nearly cooked our engine in the heat but the camping at night was spectacular. Some compacted piste sections but a lot of deep drifts and churned up soft stuff, and intermitent dry water channels that come sharp when you hit them at speed.
Unless you're a die hard desert lover prob best to avoid. very pretty though.
__________________
www.simba4x4.com
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 28 Sep 2010
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Sheffield, Yorkshire
Posts: 43
South Sudan

I just rode South from Khartoum to the Ugandan border (via Wau and Juba).
You need a permit in Khartoum, but otherwise no big hassles.
Except the road is quite poor.
Not paved and lots of potholes.
Very slippy when wet since clay.
Land mines on the sides at points.
Lots of military checkpoints: altho South of Wau they are very friendly.
Just before Wau they are quite aggressive.
Juba VERY expensive unless you find a free place to stay/support you.
One place just south of Rumbeck where the road is VERY bad for about 5km, but passable for 4x4 and motorbikes (trucks are stuck there for months in the rainy season).

But an experience.

Alan Jarvis
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How do I do the Wadi Halfa to Aswan ferry? steve.lorimer North Africa 10 14 Dec 2010 06:51
Petrol Wadi Halfi Sudan Road happydunk North Africa 2 3 Aug 2010 17:55
Dogs on wadi halfa ferry 2cvfred North Africa 0 7 Jul 2010 14:02
Wadi Halfa ferry costs go up... jim North Africa 0 1 Sep 2004 18:53

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27 2025
Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
CanWest: July 10-13 2025
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21 2025
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:16.