Hi Bill

I think you are right about the KLR. The more hours I spend thinking and reading about it the more it seems like the "right" bike for the job.

But really, I have no difficulties taking a flight or a bus to somewhere else than San Francisco, I just needed to start out somewhere.

Does Oregon have the same "easy" rules for obtaining the registration papers as Montana does, anyone know?
For me the main argument for buying outside California would be less paperwork and less waiting (in whatever order).
7% tax doesnt scare me that much as I pay 45% income tax, 25% VAT, 180% Vehicle Registration fee and a gallon of gas sets me back 7 dollars here in Denmark (and the weather sucks too)

Oh well, but that is besides the point.

So I take it from your post Bill that Montana is pretty much a No-Go due to risk of freezing my genetalia off? Or is just that all the sunday riders stay in doors?

Does anyone know of larger or smaller dealers (or even private persons) who could find and prep a KLR for a tour? A used one with low miles would be preferrable, but you don't always get what you wish for, so a new one is also an option.
Standart upgrades like doohicky, nerfbars and highway pegs, pannier racks etc.

Or maybe someone of you know someone who has a tour ready bike with, say a maximum of 15000 miles? And whould would be villing to part with it of course (-:

Thank You

Peter

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Peter Kongsbak
South East Asia, USA, Central and South America and Scandinavia.

Montana December snow and lots of it. Not as much as you have but still. Im a fair weather biker to cold or nasty I go south.

Oregon on the cost is free of snow (most of the time) lotts rain thow no tax, dont know about register the bike there cant be that hard. The USA is lax on most of its laws anyway. May have stay some place to get the registration (P.O. Box will do or the bike shop may know a way around it). Geting the title plate and registration may take a week or 2. ||| New and Used Motorcycles For Sale - Cycle Trader ||| - CycleTrader.com has all you need for a bike used or new. Im not too trusting on people setting up my bike for a ride like that so Id do all that my self. http://www.whitehorsepress.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=KLR&search_in_ description=1&x=0&y=0 has most of the gear your looking for.

As far as KLR Vs. DL well I like the DL smother better road handiling for what I use my bike for it beat out the KLR not by much but it did.

Getting a place to work on the bike may be a bit harder but If you talk to people thay will get you some place dry to put the bits on. If not I have worked on my bike in the parking lot of the bike shop, in a camping ground and in a parking building.

Thanks for your input DLbiten. Guess it should be Oregon or California then. I just read that in California it can take up to 6-8 weeks to get the final registration papers. I can deal with this, but it would be sooo much easier to get them before I leave the states.

Work space. I had thought about the option of doing it at camp sites and so on. Only problem is that I am not a great mechanic (not a complete tosser either) and that the bike will probably need quite extensive upgrading.

I guess you just have to spend dollars and time on different things if you buy a DL compared to a KLR. Or would I be much cheaper off in upgrades if I compare a stock DL to a stock KLR? I think the new version has bridget the quality gap a bit between the KLR and the DL, but well. I am lost, because I simply don't know. I think I will just go for the best possible deal all in all. With that I mean: as ready a bike as possible for the most fair price (not cheapest, but value for money since I don't want to pay for fancy names and stickers)

I don't know how the roads are in Central and South America, but I would hate to miss out on to to much because my bike wouldn't go there.

Thanks

Peter

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Peter Kongsbak
South East Asia, USA, Central and South America and Scandinavia.

Peter, one comment about this...just about any bike will be able to handle the trip you are about to take, its just that some bikes will require more effort to ride than others. IMHO, the most important quality on a travel bike is reliability. Both the KLR and DL650, while being very different bikes, have an excellent reputation for being reliable. You are definitely on the right track with your bike choices.

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Hi David

Thank you very much for your posts. I am getting confident that I am on the right track in the trip planning.

Good point about posting an ad.

Regards Peter

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Peter Kongsbak
South East Asia, USA, Central and South America and Scandinavia.

All good advice.

KLR

Craigslist (I just checked and there are tons of KLRs for sale. There will be fewer in December, but they will be dirt cheap because no one buys in December and everyone needs money for Christmas)

Check the flea market both here and ADVrider. You very well may get a bike already fitted with all the stuff you would do.

I have an address you can use for the paperwork.

Contact the HU community and let the ADV riders know you are comming.

Should go off without a hitch (you DO speak Spanish right?)

Hi Pete

Thank you, I might very well take you up on that address thing. And yes, I will make a post on the community pages one of these days. Seems to be the right thing to do.

I don't have a fixed departure from the americas, so I hope to pick up some spanish in Mexico. Maybe some language school for some weeks.

I know that I need to speak spanish for the countries further south, but it is my understanding that you can make do with english and a spanish phrasebook in mexico. At least in the more turisty areas.

It will just have to work out... I am too busy working in Denmark to follow any spanish courses.
Thanks for your info. Peter

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South East Asia, USA, Central and South America and Scandinavia.