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Bikeshop in Vladivostok?

Hey guys!

I will ship my bike from New Zealand to Vladivostok in May this year by sea freight.
As I have to drain oil and fuel from the bike first thing I will have to do when it arrives in Vladivostok is to get new oil and fuel.

So does anyone maybe know a bike shop in Vladivostok he can recommend?

Thank you very much.

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your best bet is to hook up with one of the bike clubs in town, rather than a shop. I've not been, but I understand there are a couple, including the Iron Tigers, that have a clubhouse, etc. I would guess that the clubhouses are in Colebatch's waypoint file, which probably also includes some bike shops if you need to go that route.
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Can't you bring oil with you ??

What bike is it ?? If you just need to get it out of the shipping yard, throw any motor oil in it. It will be fine for a few miles to get you to your hotel until you can find a decent motorcycle oil.

Check with your shipping company too. You might be able to put new sealed oil containers in the crate with the bike. I think they sometimes don't like oil in the bike as you can't guarantee it doesn't leak.

A petrol station and Jerry can can't be too hard to find either...
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Can't you bring oil with you ??

What bike is it ?? If you just need to get it out of the shipping yard, throw any motor oil in it. It will be fine for a few miles to get you to your hotel until you can find a decent motorcycle oil.

Check with your shipping company too. You might be able to put new sealed oil containers in the crate with the bike. I think they sometimes don't like oil in the bike as you can't guarantee it doesn't leak.

A petrol station and Jerry can can't be too hard to find either...
Oil is classed as dangerous goods so will need a dangerous goods cert filled out and then packed correctly which to be fair would be cheaper just buying oil when you arrive
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Hello Guys,
Thank you for your help, Your quite right Wesley, No Oil means No dangerous Good's to pay, Have e-mailed a couple of bike clubs in Vladivostok but have nothing yet, Bike is Old 99 BMW funduro, just mineral bike oil will do.
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Hello Guys,
Thank you for your help, Your quite right Wesley, No Oil means No dangerous Good's to pay, Have e-mailed a couple of bike clubs in Vladivostok but have nothing yet, Bike is Old 99 BMW funduro, just mineral bike oil will do.
You don't need anything but a petrol station then. They will surely sell oil too.
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One way to find a motorcycle shop is to go to Яндекс.Карты
Search for Мотоциклы (motorcycle). Most of the hits seem to be motorcycle-related shops. Searching for АЗС should get you filling stations (Note that the second letter is cyrillic З not the number 3.
Google maps might work too.
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Thanks again Guys
The language is another bridge to cross, but will sure make things interesting.
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Paul:

I think it might be worth your while to do a little further investigation with your shipping agent (or the carrier) so far as this issue of "oil being dangerous goods" is concerned. I strongly suspect that someone has given you incorrect advice.

I have shipped my motorcycle by air on numerous occasions, and never had to drain the oil out of the motorcycle. I note also that the entire motorcycle is classified for aviation dangerous goods purposes as a "Vehicle, Flammable Liquid Powered", and has a UN classification number of 3166.

It is entirely possible that motor oil, when shipped by itself on a stand-alone basis (meaning, you are shipping a case of motor oil to someone) is considered to be dangerous goods. But, it does not follow that motor oil inside a vehicle engine is dangerous goods.

An excellent example of this rationale can be found in the IATA (International Air Transport Association) Dangerous Goods handbook. A wet-cell battery, such as almost all motorcycles and vehicles are equipped with, is very much 'dangerous goods' and there are all sorts of restrictions and prohibitions against shipping wet-cell batteries. But, if one takes a close look at the packing instructions in the DG book that apply to motorcycles and automobiles, it states that if the vehicle or motorcycle is loaded into the aircraft in such a manner that it is unlikely that the vehicle will ever tip over, and if the battery is securely affixed to the vehicle, then the battery does not have to be removed and the battery (by itself, in its own right) is not considered to be DG.

I guess what I am getting at is this: I think someone who you have dealt with - perhaps the shipping agent - believes that oil by itself is a DG, and they have then assumed that that means that oil inside a motorcycle engine is a DG. That is not how the rules are meant to be interpreted.

If the regulations that apply to marine transport are similar to the regulations that apply to air transport, the shipping agent should only consider the entire object that will be shipped (in other words, the motorcycle itself), not any individual components within that object that are a normal part of the object.

I suggest you ask the shipping agent to go back and look up the rules for a UN classification 3166 shipment (a "Vehicle, Flammable Liquid Powered"), and then look at the interpretive guidance and packing instructions for the whole vehicle (the UN 3166 item). The definitive answer will come from the packing instructions for the UN 3166 item.

Michael

PS: I'm both an aircraft pilot and a DG instructor by profession, so, I'm pretty certain of the accuracy of what I have written about air shipments. I am not familiar with the rules for marine shipments, but my guess is that they probably follow the same UN guidelines as we do on the air side of things.
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PS: I'm both an aircraft pilot and a DG instructor by profession, so, I'm pretty certain of the accuracy of what I have written about air shipments. I am not familiar with the rules for marine shipments, but my guess is that they probably follow the same UN guidelines as we do on the air side of things.
Dead correct, on all your points!
Who the hell said no oil?
You are also allowed minimal gasoline, to get you off the terminal or the port.
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