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Buying motorbike southern china to take to UK - advice needed
Hi all!

I'm currently planning my first long distance trip from Yunnan province to London, you can get an idea of my rough route here

I would really like some advice on what you would all think a good bike to buy would be. I'd ideally like something as large as a 400cc. currently looked at shineray xy400 as an option, but may want something a bit more off roady - i prefer to stay off the beaten track.

I have a budget that can stretch to £1500 tops! I'm ok with bending the law a bit if I can get away with it (have done loads of research here). But all advice welcome.

Many many thanks in advance!

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Hi Fred.

On viewing, your planned route which will take you over some very offbeat roads.

I don't think with your budget of $1500 will only allow you to purchases a cheap 2nd hand Chinese bike.

The bike will end up being your biggest problem and probably not complete the journey.

Just completed a ride from Shandong Province to London and back riding nearly all the E.U. Countries 50.000 KM, 26 countries in 90 days ending up in Kunming.

My route was through Russia into Finland meaning I only need 1 Visa before I left and was able to get a VOA for Kazakhstan at the border on the way back.

My trip was done on a CFMoto 650 TR-G Touring bike and apart from some road works in Russia and some very bad roads in Kazakhstan the bike DID not miss a beat and was very happy handling all the roads condition I encountered.

Remember you will probably need a Carnet de Passages just to get your bike out of China? regardless if you return to China or not.

And in my case the agent wanted a 100.000 RMB deposit on the bike,
but in the end got this amount down to 30.000 RMB.

Good luck with the trip.

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Are you hoping to be able to legally register the bike once you get back to Europe?
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Are you hoping to be able to legally register the bike once you get back to Europe?
I dont think there is a way to legaly register a bike wich is not known in europa but would be great if it would be able to do a trip like this without a carnet. I would go for a 125cc bike wich is cheaper and more comon in Asia. Please keep us updated I might join you

The big questions probably is: Can you register the bike in China and leave the country with it? Once your out everything else will be easy.

Crossing Russia the bike will probably be in your passport (no Carned needet) and in the EU you might have to pay an import deposit wich will be returned if you export the bike egain or show a letter proving you have dumped the bike on the waste place. To get all the visa for the stans will be difficult no matter wich bike you ride. Iran requires a Carnet the Stans as well?

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The big questions probably is: Can you register the bike in China and leave the country with it?
Yes, I did ???

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Crossing Russia the bike will probably be in your passport (no Carned needet) and in the EU you might have to pay an import deposit
The point I am making is China is not like other countries in the world and you need a Carnet just to leave China with the bike but these rule does not apply to all borders and depending what day of the week it is ?.
On entering the EU (Finland) from Russia NO import papers was given and no import deposit was asked for.
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I have a budget that can stretch to £1500 tops! I'm ok with bending the law a bit if I can get away with it (have done loads of research here). But all advice welcome.
Hi Fred, this budget will maybe get you a new 125cc street bike, that will hopefully last until Europe. But you can do it, quite some people have done China to Europe in the last few years. Enjoy.

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The big questions probably is: Can you register the bike in China and leave the country with it? Once your out everything else will be easy.
Hi Ta-rider, I agree with you, the most difficult will maybe be leaving China. I did it only with a Swiss registered bike, which entered legaly and it took me about 7 days (on the weekends the border is closed).


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Remember you will probably need a Carnet de Passages just to get your bike out of China? regardless if you return to China or not.

And in my case the agent wanted a 100.000 RMB deposit on the bike,
but in the end got this amount down to 30.000 RMB.
Hello Nuff Said,

good and fast journey you did. Wau 50.000km in 3 months, that sounds crazy, but hey only the crazy survive. I did 40.000km last year in 7 months from Europe to China and back on a 350cc.

why would you need a carnet de passages to get out of China with a Chinese bike? What did you pay the 30.000RMB (4200USD) for?


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And in my case the agent wanted a 100.000 RMB deposit on the bike,
but in the end got this amount down to 30.000 RMB.
Man you got ripped. Never had to organised an ATA for that border crossing.
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