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I am wondering if I can take a ferry from Japan somewhere to china and ride China with my own USA registered motorcycle without having a guide with me? I did not list China as a potential country on my Carnet, so I'm also wondering if China requires a Carnet?


Maybe you can use ATA to china.ATA is Admission Temporaire Carnet.
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yes the link say .Page not found ?
any other ? thanks for sharing!
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Hi Thierry!
Yes I know, the guided tour costs are astronomical, yet having said this the border permit costs themselves are also quite substantial. A crossing of China is not yet ‘cheap’ by any means, but at least one can save on the cost of guide after Xinjinag.

@ Yokesman...which site are you referring to?
Have a look at my latest blog, Ricard’s contact details are at the end Click here

I should have perhaps detailed the fact that China Tierra de Aventura does not yet advertise this service and this is why I took on the task to outline as much as possible and share as much info as I can, to save them having to answer all the repetitive emails. Hopefully, by the time my second post is done, most overlanders will just contact him for a quote...knowing all the requirements involved.
Anyway, I’ll try and get Part 2 posted today! Cheerio to all
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Now that the OP had removed the blog post on which she explained the procedure she followed I think we can consign this thread to the 'red herring' department. Good for her for pulling it off but it was a one off.
I have unstuck this thread.
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David so you hired a bike from China itself......

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David so you hired a bike from China itself......

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Yes,it is possible. This is not problem..
The problem is.. how can I obtain a chinese temporary driving license?
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That's the thing how to get a Chinese driving license

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Now that the OP had removed the blog post on which she explained the procedure she followed I think we can consign this thread to the 'red herring' department. Good for her for pulling it off but it was a one off.
I have unstuck this thread.
It seems like there’s something wrong with the link in the OP message, because when you use the search function on her website, and you type “china” then you get all the articles, so they’re still there, all the info is in the posts called:

“Overlanding China: Self-drive and without a guide… It’s now possible!” (Oct 22nd, 2014)
“Overlanding China: what you need to know BEFORE you go” (Oct 27th, 2014)
“Overlanding China: what you need to know when IN China” (Oct 29th, 2014)
“Travel independently through China… Take 2!” (March 14th, 2015)

Much to my horror, the last blog post was updated in April 2015, telling about some @#$%&* in two 4x4’s who's behaviour led to independent tours being no longer available…

Which is a real bummer ‘cause I was quite happy after seeing the prices quoted!
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As I understand ATA is ie Admission Temporaire Carnet is for industrial goods or goods used for temporary import to china for exhibitions and demonstrations for business.

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Reviving this thread .. hoping that one of the 10k viewers may be able to answer the following question:

If a non-Chinese citizen (American), holding a valid six-year Chinese drivers license wanted to cross into China on an American-registered Honda Africa Twin (XRV750), what is required to bring the motorcycle into China temporarily for several months?

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If a non-Chinese citizen (American), holding a valid six-year Chinese drivers license wanted to cross into China on an American-registered Honda Africa Twin (XRV750), what is required to bring the motorcycle into China temporarily for several months?
I am sure HU has more experienced and qualified China travel advisors to chime in shortly but personally reckon the same rules as for regular motor-vehicle tour groups / individuals apply for transiting through China with an outside registered motorbike (USA registration). Your just lucky to be able to skip the China d-license issue as a holder of a valid six year license.... nuff said'....
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China independent travel

Would really like to ridethrough China entering from Mongolia exiting through Pakistan. Any information would be gratefully received.
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Facts are changing???



Just look here: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...pakistan-95028
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Riding China unescorted-alone

I rode about 3 weeks in China in 2017. I had good information from inmates Mika and Prince666 on ADV to help me. Prince666 told me I wouldn't find any rental shops unless doing a tour, which I don't. With his help I bought a new Shineray 250 in Kunming, China. It cost $1300 including a new helmet. I believe there are only 2 provinces of 22 that you can't travel in without an escort. Tibet and Xinjiang. And I think there the escort can be any national Chinese person. I didn't have a Chinese drivers license. I had an IDL. I was never asked for my license. And there were many check points in China. Below is my RR for China. The China trip starts about half way down the page on 3/24/2017.


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A friend of mine just tried to drive with his bike in China.
And his girlfriend is Chinese and knows who to ask.
And she speaks the language and has contacts.

No chance to get in with the bike.
This is just right now, they tried since a few month.
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A friend of mine just tried to drive with his bike in China.
And his girlfriend is Chinese and knows who to ask.
And she speaks the language and has contacts.

No chance to get in with the bike.
This is just right now, they tried since a few month.

I bought a bike in China because it is too difficult to take your own bike in. When researching several years ago, I read on forum that a Laura,her boy friend, and another friend did manage to take there own bikes through. But it took a long time to organize. They had to use some agency and, I think, a carnet. And they were restricted to a where and when schedule.


In 2011 I rode to Ushuaia. I met "Mika" in Buenos Aires. He has done a lot of global riding. When I researched China on HU I saw a thread about riding China, alone on his own bike. I commented to the post and found it was the same Mika I met. If you are interested in riding China alone, I suggest reading his thread posted below.


https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...na-i-did-82852


When I went to my second HU rally in 2015? I had given up on China and was wanting to talk to people about India and Nepal. After the final presentation was given I was talking with new friends. We were going to take a group picture. A man walking by offered to be the photographer. I heard him mention China while handing cameras back. I think he was German and married to a Chinese woman. And he had a business in north east China. He said if I flew to Dalian he could have someone pick me up and help me buy a bike. And it would be that simple. It's not what I did. But it renewed my interest and focus on China.
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