Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > Northern and Central Asia
China [Xinjiang] transit Kyrgyzstan > Pakistan no escorts China [Xinjiang] transit Kyrgyzstan > Pakistan no escorts
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts
Northern and Central Asia Topics specific to Russia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Mongolia, China, Japan and Korea
Photo by Paul Stewart, of Egle Gerulaityte - Must love Donkeys!

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Must love Donkeys!
Photo by Paul Stewart,
of Eglė Gerulaitytė with friends.



Like Tree14Likes

Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 6 Jun 2018
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,092
Awesome news.

What's interesting is indeed how to get a China tourist visa... when I did it a few years ago (traveling on public transport, entering on the bus from Laos), the embassy originally asked for more details. Once I gave them a list of my full itinerary (hotel bookings, buses and trains I expected to take, including leaving China from Shanghai), they gave me the visa no problem, and I don't think I would have had any problem entering via any other border crossing - the visa does not specify details...

I think it is incumbent on every overlander now to get a Chinese tourist visa and just try their luck once they are near the border, just to report back!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 6 Jun 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
  
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 5
Hi there riders.
I am planning to do it next year around march-april and feels more possitive about it after reading your news and stories. Because as well I prefer no guide. Pkicken you really didnt need to have all required aprovals from each province you go through before you enter a chinese border?? How did you find out this will work, or you just show up on the border with visitor(transit) visa and wait what gonna happened? Mika & Pkicken , guys how is it with wild camping, hiding in the bush, he land is big so I guess its possible to find a place well hide isnt it? How did you found which hotel accept foreign withou chinese? Chees n Well done!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 7 Jun 2018
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,092
Quote:
Originally Posted by Santi07 View Post
How did you found which hotel accept foreign withou chinese?
There are plenty of foreigners backpacking through Western China - finding a hotel is not a problem.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 7 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Quote:
finding a hotel is not a problem.
Sorry mate do you live in China?
Then trust me it's my biggest problem when you are tired after a long days ride.
And your told sorry no western people allowed.

Come and live and ride here 365 days a year?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 7 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Sorry there was more than what you see
For some reason, I posted it on the HUBB but it all did not come out

Let's see if it comes out now.


我不是中国人 怎么会有中国身份证 请你不要问傻问题了 你连这点常识都没有吗？


请你使用你的大脑 做个好人 不要再傻了 卖给我一些汽油。谢谢！
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 7 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Quote:
How did you found which hotel accept foreign withou chinese?
Just stay at any 5-star hotel and you will be welcome in English but you will have to pay 1500 RMB up.

Apart from that you just don't know until you try and book in?

Many nice hotels from 100 RMB up you wont to be able to stay.

And after you have worked out you cant stay there because of remembering very very few people speaks English.

Then when all this is done you then try and ask the hotel receptionist what hotel does take western people, remembering again "NO SPEAK ENGLISH"

Some days are good to find one straight away or there don't care just needs your money or I have taken 5 hours in the past or left that town and rode 60 km to the next town lol.

TIC (This is China) The logic free zone.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 7 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Quote:
So, who is next?

You did very well,Pkichen has done very well, who else has the balls to try?

For the life of me to this day I don't know how you 2 pulled it off and got as far as you did without being pulled up and nicked for not having a Chinese DL.

What can I say lol hats of lads, lets read about the next lucky one.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Pruszkow, Poland
Posts: 21
Very interesting. I will be overlanding on my motorbike (EU plates) in Kirgistan 2nd and 3rd week of August, so it seems that having Chinese visa it will be enough? I'm thinking that if it is so easy, maybe good idea would be to cross China border and stay there for some days.

Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
The Famous 4
Here are the list and links to there RR on how there rode across China without a guide.
Most had no insurance some had no number plates and all was very brave and lucky

1st. Mika, June 2015.
link....http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...na-i-did-82852

2nd. Singel-Handed Decemnber 2016

Link........http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...frontier-90255


3rd. Doogle March 2017

Link.....Renting my way through Asia | Adventure Rider

Chinese part starts at post 70?

4th. Pkicen May 2018.

Link.... HERE.


The Famous 4


For me sorry all the others, the winner is Singel-Handed.

The main reasons are.

1. 22.000 km
2. Rode all this way with 1 HAND?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 131
Not forgetting Walter Colebatch in 1994. OK, they didnt exactly just show up at a border and wing it, but did do it without any guides.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
Quote:
Originally Posted by ouroboros2015 View Post
Not forgetting Walter Colebatch in 1994. OK, they didnt exactly just show up at a border and wing it, but did do it without any guides.
Please add to list with link to RR if you have.
The more the better.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 131
Walter Colebatch and James Mudie 1994
The Tokyo to London Project
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Nuff Said's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 258
very interesting read.
Not only did he help the police design the new temporary Chinese DL.
Also getting the first temporary Chinese number plates

No 00002 and 00003.
The police chief keep the first one 00001


Thanks for posting the link.





Must post this part, and this was back in 1994?


Chinese roads were proving to be as dangerous as they were scary. China has by far the greatest number of road fatalities in the world - over a quarter of a million fatalities annually. Sure, they have the largest population, but California has more cars than all of China, yet China has more road deaths than all of the United States! Having witnessed Chinese traffic first hand on the roads now for over a week, that didn't surprise us at all. Accidents were frequent. Seat belts were never worn. Motorcyclists wore the flimsiest helmets. Drivers had little to no consideration for anyone else on the roads. No-one gives way. The bigger vehicles have de facto right of way, since they are more likely to do the most damage. Therefore truck drivers and tractors never give way. As soon as we saw a truck or a tractor the brain switched into full wits mode and we would watch their every little twitch, knowing they could and would change direction without caring about other traffic. It was effectively up to smaller vehicles to make sure they didn't get in a way of a truck or tractor.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 10 Jun 2018
Registered Users
HUBB regular
  
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Denver, CO, USA
Posts: 88
Pkicken, I have to ask you, what made you do the "just try it" approach. All everybody has ever said this is impossible, but you made it happen. Fantastic! Was this the plan all along or did you see the turn-off for the border crossing and decided what the hell, lets see what happens.

Or did you surprise the Chinese border guards and they just screwed up, because nobody ever told them this couldn't be done. Did they appear confused by you showing up without the paperwork or guide arrangements?

Just curious and my hat off to you.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 11 Jun 2018
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
  
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 12
Info
I just showed up at the border to zee what ould happen. I did no wild camping in Aksu i just went to a police station and gold them i needed a cheap hotel the police arranged it they also helped when i couldn’t get fuel. So use the police!
Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 4 1 2 34

Tags
2018, 2019..., china bike, china cheap tour

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Riding through China. I did it my way, without a guide. Mika Kuhn June 2015 mika Ride Tales 44 13 Apr 2020 18:41
CHINA 2016 "THE LAST GREAT FRONTIER" 6 MONTHS 24,000 KMS. on a chinese 125cc PART 1 single-handed Ride Tales 39 11 Mar 2017 23:31
2015 - Heading east from Europe, add your itinerary / plans kim Travellers Seeking Travellers 190 5 Mar 2016 07:38
Kirgistan - Pakistan Transit in China inti Travellers Seeking Travellers 4 24 Oct 2014 22:29
Provisions for driving in China. - facts. uk_vette West and South Asia 2 24 Jul 2014 07:58

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.

2024:

2025:

  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025!

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

Your ad could be here, on EVERY page of the HUBB, or the whole website, or as many as you like!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 21:15.

Contact Us - Horizons Unlimited Motorcycle Travellers Website - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top