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Driving from japan to Netherlands , starting June 2019
I am dutch and currently living in Japan. Planning to drive from Japan to Netherlands in 2019, preliminary schedule as follow.

- Leaving Japan first half of June 2019 ,to Vladivostok
- Driving from Vladivostok to Moscow (About one month)
- From Moscow to Netherlands via Scandinavia (one to two month's)

First of all, in case anybody having similar ideas we can explore to travel together or parts of the trip.

Can anybody advise me on the following;

- Transportation from Japan to Vladivostock (By Ferry.....?)
- Customs to get Bike cleared in Russia (Bike is registered in Japan and by than I am registered in The Netherlands)
- Getting the bike from Russia into Finland (customs etc.)
- Travel insurrance
- Bike insurance

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Remember you're not allowed to drive a vehicle with foreign (in your case non-Dutch) plates in the EU as a citizen of one of the EU countries.

So if you bike is on Jap plates you will need to import the vehicle at the EU border.
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Thanks Bento

Than I have to check with Dutch or EU customs because I will bring the bike into Netherlands (European Union) as part of relocation goods than I don't need to pay relocation tax.

Do you think If I would remain registered in Japan (Residence pass) this wouldn't be a problem?
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Oh I just remembered. I think if you're relocating back home and have been away for an X amount of time you can take vehicles with you without paying a shitload of taxes.
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Careful there.
Your bike only goes tax free as household goods when it lands directly in NL.
Arriving at any other EU border you'll have to import it. Tax and duty is around 35% of the appreciated bikes value.

You need to find a shipper that is willing to sell you a 'T1' form BEFORE you arrive at an EU customs office. The T1 grants you tax free transit home, it is valid for 8 (eight) days only.
My bike landed in Antwerp port from where I trailerd it to Germany.

A deposit over the supposed tax amount has to be handed to the shipper. It will be refunded once you send him your NL customs docs as proof you're not trying to evade taxes.

http://www.logisticsglossary.com/nl/term/t1/

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Bike insurance is best obtained here:
http://www.lobagola.com/green-card-i...insurance.html
http://advrider.com/index.php?thread...orage.1075077/
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Understand, is it an option if I remain registered in Japan until I reach Netherlands.
Once I reach Netherlands I register in Netherlands again and start the import procedure.
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Understand, is it an option if I remain registered in Japan until I reach Netherlands.
Once I reach Netherlands I register in Netherlands again and start the import procedure.
Don't think so as you have a Dutch passport. Best bet is to contact the RDW: https://www.rdw.nl/Particulier/Paginas/default.aspx
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Does anybody know whether there is an option for international registration with international numberplate for the duration of the journey until registration in The Netherlands
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Contact the RDW as I said, they have all the answers to your questions.
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Does anybody know whether there is an option for international registration with international numberplate for the duration of the journey until registration in The Netherlands
I did something very similar with a New Zealand-registered vehicle (a moto), which I bought down under in NZ. Rode it overland and into the EU entering from Asia Minor (Turkey).

I’m a British citizen with a UK passport.

I then travelled through 21 European countries – including 16 EU member states – before finally arriving in England, where I arranged to have the bike permanently imported and re-registered with the UK authorities.

I did not qualify for relief under the transfer of residence rules because I had not been permanently living outside the UK (or the EU) for long enough. I therefore had to pay import duties and VAT on the vehicle's value.

Did I break any rules? – Well if I did, then no official at any European border or the UK Customs or Registration Authority seemed to mind.
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Thanks if I understand you correct nobody stopped you at any of the european borders.
I guess the tax issue only kicks in once you apply for registration in the country of residence.
In the meantime i contacted an officer of the dutch RDW who imported my Triumph Tiger from Singapore three years ago.
From his point of view he didn't see any problems, but he will double check and come back to me sometime next week.

I believe for Russia I will need a carnet de passage, and probably have to arrange translation into english and Russian of my Japanese bike registration papers
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Thanks if I understand you correct nobody stopped you at any of the european borders.
I guess the tax issue only kicks in once you apply for registration in the country of residence.
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I started a HUBB thread in March last year (2016) detailing my experience. Click-on THIS LINK, which will take you there.

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I believe for Russia I will need a carnet de passage, and probably have to arrange translation into english and Russian of my Japanese bike registration papers
I've never driven/ridden a foreign vehicle over the border into Russia, although as far as I am aware you do not need a carnet to do so.

I'm sure there must be some sort of temporary import permit requirement though. No doubt someone here will chime-in and explain the Russian border procedure to you fairly soon.

Good luck with your trip.

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Nice trip! In your case you can drive in the Netherlands for 2 weeks by simply reporting the vehicle at the tax organization. Fill in the form at this website https://www.belastingdienst.nl/wps/w...r_in_nederland print it out and show it when asked. If you don't have this on you, you'll have to pay import tax and a big fine for tax evasion. Good luck and enjoy your trip!


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Currently, the only ferry from Japan to Russia is DBS.
For customs in Vlad, contact Yuri Melnikov (Links Ltd | professional packing and moving services provider in Vladivostok, Russia).
I am not sure you can change to Dutch registration with the bike still in Japan.
Maybe you can do it in transit (i.e. on the ferry), but I am not sure about the legality of doing so.
You do NOT need a carnet for Russia.
You need a number plate for overseas use, though, as Japanese plates do not have latin letters. Contact JAF about that.
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