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Originally Posted by chris
Hi Alibaba
IMHO when somebody (you) claims that somebody else (Walter and Tony) wasn't the first to do something they (you) should be able to give the names of at least one person who went before them.
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Well, I don't agree. I mean that if someone claims to be the first (or fastest or whatever) they have to prove it. I think Guinness book of records share my view.
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Originally Posted by chris
In your reply you mention some random Norwegians who might have written something in a magazine somewhere and Helge Pedersen who was planning a trip to that area. Did Helge ride the full BAM?
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The two other Norwegians wrote some articles and published a video but I don't think anyone of them rode the full BAM, and I never said they did.
I mentioned Helge and the two other guys to show that quite a few people went to Russia when it opened up.
This is 20 years ago, before Internet. The only reference I can find right now is that the two Norwegian guys crossed west Siberia in 1992 and east in 1995. Helges trip was about a year later.
The article about BAM was not written by Norwegians but I think it must have been between 1992-1995.
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Originally Posted by chris
If I were travelling down a road and had spoken (I know that Walter and Tony have a very good grasp of the Russian language) to people who hadn't seen a western bike before and had lived there all their lives, then without evidence to the contrary, I would be able to make the claim to be the first.
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I believe you would do so and the same obviously goes for Colebatch and Tony P (and maybe most people). Now I know what they mean with "first" and I don't have any problems with that.
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