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And keep the stamped temporary import paper from you exit of the custom union.
Just in case that you get in trouble by the next entry you can proof that you did exit !!!!
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Hi, cautionary tale here. Make sure, as Klaus said that you keep copies of the docs.
I rode to Kyrgyzstan via Russia and Kazakhstan summer 2016.
So when I entered the Russian/ central Asian custom zone, I had the TiP that I kept all the way to Kyrgyzstan.
Kyrgyz is now in the custom zone. Our bikes were transported by truck back from Kyrgyz to the UK.
Few months later I got a letter for the Russian custom office in Moscow asking me details of our bikes whereabout, as they still had the bikes as within the custom zone.
I got all the transport docs from the transport company ( they are absolutely NOT to blame here I must add, they were brillant).
Anyway, I sent all docs, including clearing custom docs, by email to russia, to prove the bikes left the custom zone a long time ago, and have not heard since from them, so I guess all is clear.
But better keep copies of docs or you could be sent a big bill to pay!
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Hi, cautionary tale here. Make sure, as Klaus said that you keep copies of the docs.
I rode to Kyrgyzstan via Russia and Kazakhstan summer 2016.
So when I entered the Russian/ central Asian custom zone, I had the TiP that I kept all the way to Kyrgyzstan.
Kyrgyz is now in the custom zone. Our bikes were transported by truck back from Kyrgyz to the UK.
Few months later I got a letter for the Russian custom office in Moscow asking me details of our bikes whereabout, as they still had the bikes as within the custom zone.
I got all the transport docs from the transport company ( they are absolutely NOT to blame here I must add, they were brillant).
Anyway, I sent all docs, including clearing custom docs, by email to russia, to prove the bikes left the custom zone a long time ago, and have not heard since from them, so I guess all is clear.
But better keep copies of docs or you could be sent a big bill to pay!
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Hm good to hear. I thought I was " special" being contacted by the Russian customs. They sent a letter, I guess the same that you got, and called me twice so far. I explained that my bike is still in the customs union but they seemed very interested to hear where it is now and when I will leave. Anyway will make sure I can prove once I have left the union. Thanks again.
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Travelled to Kazakhstan this summer and entered the Russian custom union into Russia from Georgia where I received TIP. One of our group was taken for ‘routine’ questioning but crossed the border later but they failed to take him through the process and unbeknown to him and us, he hadn’t received a TIP. No problem entering Kazakhstan from Russia, they assumed he had been through the process and all was well......until he tried to leave Kazakhstan near Shymkent into Uzbekistan. The Kazakh border control would NOT allow the bike to leave the country. The attitude was the bike was illegally imported as he had no TIP! No solution offered. His option was to ship out if possible or ‘throw a match in the tank’ as he said. I had to curtail my trip for other reasons so we made our way to Almaty. I was advised that the bike was regarded as ‘personal belongings’ so could not be shipped overland unaccompanied, so had to be airfreighted at £££ cost. My colleague however benefitted from my bike accompanying his plus the shipping company had a great relationship with a very sensible custom officer at the airport who saw sense and accepted the unfortunate situation that the Russian border control had not discharged their responsibility and issued the TIP. Not sure what would have happened without him...... I was also told possibly by someone unqualified that my bike could not be left in Kazakhstan, planning to ship out again and store so if anyone can advise would be great!
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Hi, cautionary tale here. Make sure, as Klaus said that you keep copies of the docs.
I rode to Kyrgyzstan via Russia and Kazakhstan summer 2016.
So when I entered the Russian/ central Asian custom zone, I had the TiP that I kept all the way to Kyrgyzstan.
Kyrgyz is now in the custom zone. Our bikes were transported by truck back from Kyrgyz to the UK.
Few months later I got a letter for the Russian custom office in Moscow asking me details of our bikes whereabout, as they still had the bikes as within the custom zone.
I got all the transport docs from the transport company ( they are absolutely NOT to blame here I must add, they were brillant).
Anyway, I sent all docs, including clearing custom docs, by email to russia, to prove the bikes left the custom zone a long time ago, and have not heard since from them, so I guess all is clear.
But better keep copies of docs or you could be sent a big bill to pay!
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maria41, please can you give some detail how you managed to ship back to the UK overland? I was told that the bike was regarded as personal belongings and could not be shipped unaccompanied?? As a result I had to airfreight which was very expensive. I plan to ship the bike out again and hopefully leave there for a while but will need to ship back (not air!) at some stage ....or ride back!!!! thanks for any detail you can give me.
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The franglais-riders
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maria41, please can you give some detail how you managed to ship back to the UK overland? I was told that the bike was regarded as personal belongings and could not be shipped unaccompanied?? As a result I had to airfreight which was very expensive. I plan to ship the bike out again and hopefully leave there for a while but will need to ship back (not air!) at some stage ....or ride back!!!! thanks for any detail you can give me.
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Hi sorry for long delay to answer, I was travelling for few months and just back home from Africa.
Lots of bikes are trucked back and forth from Europe to the Russian custom union. It is no problem at all.
We used ADVFACTORY. In summer 2016 they had shipped about 40 bikes back and forth. Check their website. Some paper work is required but easy to organise this online and send pdf files of the bike docs and stuff like that. Very easy.
Also worth asking Muzto.ch in Osh ( Kyrgyzstan) as they sometimes organise transport back to Europe fo stranded travellers ( when their bike cannot be repaired locally ).
Good luck
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