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This is worst then i expected ...with a fully loaded Africa Twin that narrow passage would be really scary. You've been brave to make it all alone.
Let's see if someone else will make the valleynext weeks and update this post...maybe meanwhile some tajik road worker will throw a little bit of rocks and concrete to fix it
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I have recommended to differents travellers just try from the M41 to Ko-jar pass, and from Rushan to the point that be doable for them. If I hadn't be helped in the deep water crossing I hadn't even tryed it, unknowing the underwater track. It wouldn't have worked just walk close to the mountain, because the track was high respect of the ground, so it is deeper in one side and much worst in the other side with the river. And I pull of my deco as soon as I passed the deeper part of the pass just in case some water went inside the engine.

It is not a courage question. You have to analyze in each moment your posibilities of turn back just in case, and be really sure in the committed passes that you are not going to fail. I made easier that passes cleaning the path of the stones before and after the difficulty. Don't forget the section of the mudslides with the big holes all along the stream, I was exhausted pulling out my bike in the times that I fell inside it and I didn't take pictures of them.
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3 years ago i sized bartang valley by 4x4 from rushan to karakul, it took me 3 days and sometimes not easy crossing the side gullies and streams - and it was a very dry year. and comparing with your pictures - i see it's really not possible this year by car.

what was the highest point your friends in tlc has reached from rushan? looking at the picture you attached i suppose they didn't reach even the village of basid (half way of rushan-ghudara) - is this right?
and what's the situation along the southern coast of karakul lake, near jingajir and muzkol and ak-jilga rivers (as there are wetlands and salty swamps usually)?

and as i know - this is not the end of bad weather. there are heavy rainings in tjk and kgz. the road between tursunzoda and hissar is partly destroyed, some people died of "sil".

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> maybe meanwhile some tajik road worker will throw a little bit of rocks and concrete to fix it
this is not cortina d'ampezzo, this is pamir.
and i hope they will never use conrete in bartang.
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After checking my gps, going up from Rushan the first difficulty I had to cross was Razujdara river -few kms after Razuj village-, the track was destroyed by the stream.
And you are right, the deep water crossing was before Basid, where my friends turn back.
From the sheperd's house after Ko-jar pass to M41, following the main track, I did two easy water crossings, one maybe 40cms deep in two streams and the other a low and calm river +-20-30cms deep. It was perfectly doable by 4x4, some small side gullies just repaired and clearly visible paths of some truck.
Not sure about the names of the rivers, my map doesn't have them, but after pass Ko-jar, I just was enjoying riding, only I had to low speed while the track went paralel and close to the river with some closed turns.

I don't have idea if it is going to be repaired or not. It doesn't seems, and for sure that with the time only will be worst.
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wetlands:
https://goo.gl/maps/c2kTVHb9yMS2
ak-jilga:
https://goo.gl/maps/pc5bn72uHnk
muzkol (kyzyl jiik):
https://goo.gl/maps/wgZ8ww2nuQw
jingajir (dzingazhir):
https://goo.gl/maps/rtjauWHbTv62
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Wetlands only a long "dry stream" but easy to pass.
Muzkol I remember veeeery fast section, just the last 200mts before the M41 were slow, but always without difficulty.

I didn't pass the others.
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> maybe meanwhile some tajik road worker will throw a little bit of rocks and concrete to fix it
this is not cortina d'ampezzo, this is pamir.
and i hope they will never use conrete in bartang.[/QUOTE]

Yeah i was joking
(cortina is 200km from my house)
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last update (about a week ago):
upper bartang not passable by car (on the kok-jar traverse many huge stones more than 500kgs each on the road, road partly destroyed). don't even try to enter kok-jar from the north - you'll have to drive back on reverse several hundred meters as there is no place to turn.
by bike - passable, but not easy.
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Does anyone know the condition of Wakhan valley and M41? It seems that Bartang will be for bicycles and bikes for some time.
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Hello
Ko-jar pass is there?:
https://goo.gl/maps/Pb1wk2nSrWm
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Bartang
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June/July/August Bartang should be fine. Its getting crouded every year a bit more, hostels could be full.
Make sure that you have enough benzin on the road. There is for a while no petrol station.

Have a save trip.
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Hello
I will drive with 4x4 car.
Can You confirme me localization of Ko-jar pass/mountaine?

Its this part of Bartang patch?
https://goo.gl/maps/Pb1wk2nSrWm

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Yes it's. Before and after the "corner", I think.
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Hi

I'm planning a trip to Pamir highway on September 2019. I'm just wondering if the weather conditions are getting too hard at that time of year.
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Bartang Valey road washed
Just got a recent feedback from a client about the Bartang road condition.
Ones the road goes along the river. The entire road is washed away for about 400m. Riding at the river bead is the only left option.

've been told that there is no crossing for cars possible.

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