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I have read that you can't carry a passenger on major japanese roads, and that sometimes means you can't use bridges / tunnels etc which cause a massive headache. Are the police very hot on this ? And is it really such a problem ? I can see it could have a major effect on trip planning....
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I have read that you can't carry a passenger on major japanese roads, and that sometimes means you can't use bridges / tunnels etc which cause a massive headache. Are the police very hot on this ? And is it really such a problem ? I can see it could have a major effect on trip planning....
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They can't be serious.....can they ?
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It used to be illegal. Now you can ride with a passenger except on the loop line at the center of Tokyo. But traffic is so slow there it really doesn't make much sense to use it there anyways.
Look for this sign to know where you cannot ride with a passenger.
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It used to be illegal. Now you can ride with a passenger except on the loop line at the center of Tokyo. But traffic is so slow there it really doesn't make much sense to use it there anyways.
Look for this sign to know where you cannot ride with a passenger.

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Just curious, what was the reasoning behind the no passenger rule?
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Just curious, what was the reasoning behind the no passenger rule?
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When they first made expressways in Japan in the 50s, there was a rash of accidents involving motorcycles. So, the police banned carrying passengers for "safety reasons". At the time, there was also no special license for motorcycles, I belive.
Improvements in licensing, motorcycle safety and road building technology were made, but for years the police refused to change the rules. Basically, it was a matter of nobody wanting to take the responsiblity. If accident rates went up after allowing passengers on expressways, somebody's job would be at risk. They came up with all sorts of excuses for years.
Eventually, the police gave in about 3 years ago and the law was changed.
Of course, there was no significant increase in accidents.
Now we can ride two-up on the expressway rather than pass through hundreds of intersections, which are far more dangerous than travelling at 100 km/h in a straight line.
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Thanks - thats a relief ! Next question is therefore - renting a bike in Japan... Is it possible / feasible ? I have been there before, but not by bike and English web searches aren't helping me much !
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Chris is right...
...but to my understanding you must have ridden a bike for one year solo until you can go 2 up on the highways! Prove of this will probably be your driver's license - I assume!
Concerning renting a bike in Japan - it can be done, but is expensive. Using "normal" bike dealers they charge you something like 5.000Yen up a day, depending on the engine size. I don't know for how long you are planning to use the bike, but you can find good used bikes for a very acceptable price. I bought my 400ccm Honda TransAlp 2 years ago - had to pay 250.000 Yen and it was in excellent condition (despite its age and mileage - 40.000km). Took me more than 3.000 kilometers this year during my Hokkaido trip and no problems whatsoever!!
So you might want to check into this option, too.
If I can be of any further help, just send me a mail!
Safe riding!
Klaus
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