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By the way, this Ukrainian bike group tried your planned route from Enilchek in 2007:
dneproveloklub.dp.ua/otshety/Tyan-Shan/6ks-07-07/T-SHan-6-2007.htm

They were not able to cross the Terekty river and went up into the mountains to reach the Uch-Kol valley via Terekty pass - completely offroad! They came out at the Bash-Kol mountain lake and it seems, they crossed the Uch-Kol river before reaching the tributary river from north (probably here: 41.894006 N, 78.673009 E)

Another Russian bike group passed the Uch-Kol valley successful in april 2002, because of low water level in end of winter. But the mountain passes were still under snow at that time:
www.isakov.narod.ru/otch/kirgizia1047.htm
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Season is slowly over, any news on this route? Has anyone managed to do it?
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i wasn't able to do it this year
my tadjik visa wasn't valid long enough so i didn't had the time to check it out..
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This year water was high, we had paermit but not enough time and power to try. We started from opposite direction and crossed Kara Say and reached Bedel Pass. Of course we were told by the locals there is no road to Inylchek but there is an option... We will try another and another time.
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Hi all, I have heard by chance of your discussion here.

The road from Engilcheck to Kara Say 100% no chance with the motorbike! In July or August, the Merzbacher lake breaks under the glacier out, and there are then cracked water masses for about 4 to 5 days along the Engilcheck river. Then it is absolutely life-threatening to stop near the river!

Please try it not at all !!

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The road from Engilcheck to Kara Say 100% no chance with the motorbike! [...]
I'm not a bidder, but If I was a bidder, I would not say "100%" never, and I would not bid one cent against them, when I'm talking about those guys from Poland ;-)
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Any news on route Kara-Say to Engilchek from 2018?
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Hi there

our local drivers asked among russian hunters and off-roaders in Kyrgyzstan who know the region between Engilchek and the Kumtor gold mine.
Some of them made it all the way through, but with good 4x4 jeeps and experienced drivers. They say that there are some rivers with to high water levels for motor bikes.
The only option is to go as late as possible in the season. In autumn, the water level is low as there is less glacier melting as in summer.
However, if there is a low water year, it might be worth to try ones more . . .

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Bash-Kol Lake from Kara-Sai
Hi all,

Interesting thread you've got going, thanks for all the info so far.

I'm planning a mountaineering exped for summer 2021 and would like to reach the southern valleys of the Kuiluu Range. Some of you have made it pretty clear that Kara-Sai => Engilchek isn't possible, but is the road be good enough to get a 4x4 from Kara-Sai to Bash-Kol lake (41.910959, 78.7480981)? From what I've read, the most difficult section seems to be closer to Engilchek, but perhaps I'm being too optimistic. Another problem would be crossing the UchKul river to then walk north into the Kuiluu range - any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!
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A friend of mine (4WD guide from Karakol) did the route late last year. He reported that he had to make several crossings of the Uch Kol river. Here is one: https://youtu.be/hSKq39pdwEg

Its doable for seasoned 4WD guys subject to water levels (September probably best). Advise you take a guide. Taking this guy would be recommended as he has done it: https://www.youtube.com/user/vadimzangiev/videos
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