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This year all the people I met coming from Tajikistan to Kyrgyzstan had 12 months TIP. This was last july/august. I know at least two guys who entered late september and received same 12 months at that border. No visa involved, as they were not going to Russia.
Things change quickly in the region, and, as klausmong1 said, can also depends on the border guards.
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In my case it was from Tajikistan to Kirgistan at Baken border.
And I had 1 year visa and no chance to get more than 2 month time for the TIP.
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I think it really depends on the border official. In July I got 3 month TIP when entering from Estonia to Russia. Exited the union to Tajikistan.
I didn't try to ask to get a longer one as I didn't need it.
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This year all the people I met coming from Tajikistan to Kyrgyzstan had 12 months TIP. This was last july/august. I know at least two guys who entered late september and received same 12 months at that border. No visa involved, as they were not going to Russia[...]
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In my case it was from Tajikistan to Kirgistan at Baken border.
And I had 1 year visa and no chance to get more than 2 month time for the TIP.
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All the people I was refferring to in my post entered Kyrgyzstan at Kyzylart – Bor Dobo border
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We also had the feeling it may be more down to having bad luck with the border official than anything else....
@ eurasiaoverland: I need to look into the visa again as we were told we can get max 30 days or multi-entry with max 1 re-entry within limited time span. You got a 12 month visum? (see you're in NL as well?)
@ lovetheworld: no had only 2 weeks holiday now, the goal was really to get the car to Russia in starting position for next year. Drove back home, 8500km in 2 weeks, crazy road trip!
As we need to travel in stages our whole plan kinda depends on being able to leave the car in the area for which we need the paperwork to allow the car the stay whilst we fly out...
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Hi Martin,
Yeah I understand the goal. But that was why I was suggesting to leave it in on of the baltic countries, in Shengen zone. That would be easy (just find a safe place for the car), no difficult paperwork involved. And then you can continue with your plan, even though you would be like 2 or 3000km away from your planning. So definitely not perfect, but I just meant it as the next best option.
But I see that you already drove back.
As an alternative plan, you could drive it to Bulgaria for example (again Shengen zone, so easy to leave the car)
And then get to Kazakhstan over the black sea and the caspian sea, using the ferries.
But I think you were looking to save some time when coming back for next year, so this is probably not a relevant option.
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We also had the feeling it may be more down to having bad luck with the border official than anything else....
@ eurasiaoverland: I need to look into the visa again as we were told we can get max 30 days or multi-entry with max 1 re-entry within limited time span. You got a 12 month visum? (see you're in NL as well?)
@ lovetheworld: no had only 2 weeks holiday now, the goal was really to get the car to Russia in starting position for next year. Drove back home, 8500km in 2 weeks, crazy road trip!
As we need to travel in stages our whole plan kinda depends on being able to leave the car in the area for which we need the paperwork to allow the car the stay whilst we fly out...
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Hi Martin
Yes I'm in NL, and I have received several Russian visas in Den Haag. To apply for a 1 year multi-entry visa, you must have visited Russia in the previous 12 months. So (assuming this is your first trip to Russia), you could not have got one before making your trip, but now that you've used your tourist visa, you can both go ahead and get one. It costs €35 plus the €30 agency fee. You need to get an invitation online; I used Real Russia and paid I think £120 for a one year multi entry business visa invitation (no, you don't need a business reason). That's all. You get the invitation immediately and can apply for your visa straight away.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need more info.
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Hi Martin,
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Yes I'm in NL, and I have received several Russian visas in Den Haag. To apply for a 1 year multi-entry visa, you must have visited Russia in the previous 12 months. So (assuming this is your first trip to Russia), you could not have got one before making your trip, but now that you've used your tourist visa, you can both go ahead and get one.
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as far as I am aware you had to enter with a business visa at least once before you can get a 1 year business visa with a business invitation. Otherwise you need an invitation through the Foreign Ministry which is pretty expensive (350 to 450 Euro, depending on the agency). This was at least the case when I applied for my 1st 1 year business visa in Germany.
We got now twice a 1 year TIP at the Russian Mongolian Borders (Ulaanbaishint and Altanbulag)with a 1 year visa. Accoring to the custom officer the 1 year TIP is the standard independent of the visa type. see also:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ssia-tip-88129
We met other travellers with non business visas got a 1 year TIP BUT also read in a German forum ( https://www.wuestenschiff.de/phpbb/p...7.html#p182587) about travellers with similar issues you experienced at the Latvia-Russian Boarder with a transit visa.
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Hi Martin,
as far as I am aware you had to enter with a business visa at least once before you can get a 1 year business visa with a business invitation. Otherwise you need an invitation through the Foreign Ministry which is pretty expensive (350 to 450 Euro, depending on the agency). This was at least the case when I applied for my 1st 1 year business visa in Germany.
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First time I paid 250€ for the invitation + 50 € delivery.
Now you can get the invitation online from Visa service like visahouse.com for about 180€
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Hi Martin
Yes I'm in NL, and I have received several Russian visas in Den Haag. To apply for a 1 year multi-entry visa, you must have visited Russia in the previous 12 months. So (assuming this is your first trip to Russia), you could not have got one before making your trip, but now that you've used your tourist visa, you can both go ahead and get one. It costs €35 plus the €30 agency fee. You need to get an invitation online; I used Real Russia and paid I think £120 for a one year multi entry business visa invitation (no, you don't need a business reason). That's all. You get the invitation immediately and can apply for your visa straight away.
Hope this helps, let me know if you need more info.
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Definitely not true !!!!
Even I know that this is said a lot of times, it is not true.
I got all my 3 1 year Muti entry business visa without a visa the past 12 month ago.
Even I knop personally ( or met them on the road ) people from Germany, Netherlands, Italy and GB, who also got their 1 year business without problems for the first time.
You only need an agency which can handle that and which ca get invitations from the migration authority.
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Definitely not true !!!!
Even I know that this is said a lot of times, it is not true.
I got all my 3 1 year Muti entry business visa without a visa the past 12 month ago.
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Actually, that is exactly the feedback I got from the Russian embassy in Brussels. I had a business visa invotation letter for multiple entry and 12 months. The Embassy would still only allow me 3 months + double entry. Their explanation was "because you haven't visited Russia before".
When I told them I needed more, their response was that I would have to come back and apply for a new visa on the same invitation letter and I would receive multiple entry and duration to the end date mentioned on the LOI.
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Yes, this happens when people want to save money and do it by themselves instead using a proper visa agency.
I know many people from different EU countries where this works out without problems.
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Definitely not true !!!!
Even I know that this is said a lot of times, it is not true.
I got all my 3 1 year Muti entry business visa without a visa the past 12 month ago.
Even I knop personally ( or met them on the road ) people from Germany, Netherlands, Italy and GB, who also got their 1 year business without problems for the first time.
You only need an agency which can handle that and which ca get invitations from the migration authority.
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This is certainly the case in the Hague if applying in person or through the agency recommended by the embassy. I don't know / care about other places, as I was talking specifically about regulations applying here.
I am sure there are agencies which for a higher price can get around the rules, but since the OP has visited Russia in the last 12 months, the argument is irrelevant anyway.
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Maybe for him, but not for others.
It may help anyone if you know that it is possible by doing it with a proper visa company.
In my case, the last 2 times I did not pay higher prices for this service.
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