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optimize time in Russia and Stans

Hi all,
I’m planning a tour in Central Asia by the end of May 2013.
The thought is to start from Novosibirsk, enter Kazakhistan at Zmeinogorsk going down to Kyrghizistan and Tajkstan (Pamir Hwy M41), Uzbekistan, Aral sea, Russia (Astrakhan), Ukraina (Odessa), Romania (Bucharest).
This shoud be done in around 20/25 days.
To make the story short, my idea is to ship the motorcycles (2) by truck with a freight company directly to Novosibirsk (time saving but no idea of the cost..) and reaching the bikes by flight and once there arrange the paperwork (custom clearance?) with a local agency.
I’m little worried about some possible hassle due to the fact we are entering Russia by flight and not with the bikes. Could this be a problem?
An alternative I guess is going earlier to Moskow by bike and then take them on a russian train to Novos.
Which one would you choose having to optimize time (& costs)?
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I don't know how fast you want to ride, but 20/25 days seems very optimistic to me for that distance. Consider, that you might loose on every border at least half a day. O.k., sometimes it can be very quick, but you shouldn't count on that. E.g. the border in the east of Kyrgystan (closest to Almaty) was closed for tourists last year, so you probably need to pass the border via Bishkek. If you want to have a nice and relaxed trip, I would recommend only fewer countries (Kyrgyztan, Tajikistan, Usbekistan), which is feasible in that time at my opinion.

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[QUOTE=eugeniobin;408990]I’m little worried about some possible hassle due to the fact we are entering Russia by flight and not with the bikes. Could this be a problem?
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To come with a bike and leave without could be a problem in Russia,the other way around not.

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PM Mr Colebatch or Sambor about this - they know the ins and outs.
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To come with a bike and leave without could be a problem in Russia,the other way around not.
I've done this many times without any problem.
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