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Politican relations with Russia - Potential problems ?
Political relations between the USA & UK with Russia are really heating up over Syria.

I know this goes on around the world every day but in this case it feels more serious with the usual squabbling.

What are the chances of Brits being given limited VISAS or having them rejected all together over the next coupe of years ?
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The world still goes on...or should we all stop and wait?
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If you're planning on visiting Russia any time soon, I would worry. Then again we might end up with more serious concerns like a full on confrontation between the West and Russia if the current situation escalates further.

Best to just twiddle your ring antenna and drink copious amounts of lager.
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British Russian relations have been frosty for a long time (since at least Litvinenko's death in 2006). And don't forget Russia is already being heavily sanctioned by the US and the EU over the annexation of Crimea. So if they are still happy to give you a visa now I doubt the situation in Syria will affect it.
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It's interesting what the screenshot button can or can't achieve (PrtSc, to the right of F12 of most traditional qwerty keyboards or menu/power on Samsung cell phones) prior to content being deleted.
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WTF?
The super moderator just deleted the posts that he did not like? WTF?

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The super moderator just deleted the posts that he did not like? WTF?

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I fully and sadly agree Mika.

I'm sure Timothy will be along shortly to delete your post too :-(

I'll take a screen shot of your and my post before he does. Just for posterity.
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What the post was saying, I just missed....
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I was not the moderator who intervened in this thread. However, I fully support the mod who did remove posts--including, notably, his own. I also support one member who removed his own post.

Posters were insulting one another, which violates forum rules. That much seems pretty straightforward, from where I sit. The unfortunate fact is that once members start hurling insults at each other, posts and (often enough) whole threads start vanishing. That's just the way it works here. You don't have to like it, but it's always wise to live in the real world--not the world you wish existed, but doesn't.

I'm not sure what purpose getting all snide towards moderators serves, but I suppose that it must be important to some members or they'd not bother. I assume that we all recognize there's a fine line involved, and that its location may differ from one mod to another.

Personally, I don't mind a member expressing reasonable dissatisfaction with a moderator's actions; when that expression turns to personal insults or attributions of foul intent, you can probably guess where it's going to lead.

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I have no issue with your moderation. I have an issue with the heavy handed, some might say bullyboy attitude of your colleague Mr Timothy.

Getting rid of the USA/Russia bashing posts is reasonable and correct. Mr Timothy wading in to belittle the op is not okay.

Again, screenshot taken, should my post be deleted.

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What the post was saying, I just missed....
One of the 'Super' moderators was having another bad day and decided to insult every member on this forum. Sadly, he has a lot of bad days.

Like usual, he hi-jacked a legitimate thread, started an argument and then tried to delete all the evidence after the inevitable backlash.

Moderators on this forum are generally EXCELLENT and work hard and selflessly for nothing but the good of the community. I applaud them.

Sadly, you always get one or two who get carried away with their 'Prefect badge' leading to some excellent threads being deleted.

In a perfect world we wouldn't start threads about politics, religion or even more controversial threads such as 'Hard vs soft luggage' & ''Is my GS going to make it to the ferry terminal without a software update''

But as international travellers these are THE ISSUES that are relevant and important to our lifestyle.

If every thread is deleted which doesn't start with ''What's the best way to transfer my savings to Touratech'' then this forum will disappear into obscurity due to sterilisation and irrelevance.

And that would be a tragedy...

This post will probably be deleted or the whole thread deleted.

George Orwell would have a field day.
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I reported the post of a member, because this member heavily offended me.

It was just because of starting a political discussion and he blamed russia for war, but when you write that not just Russia also USA is in war then he got really bad words and I do not accept that a person starts offending me in a very personal way.

And in my thinking, it is ok that a moderator deletes a political discussion, because this does not work in a motorcycle forum and only causes fights....

And it had nothing to do with the question.
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I reported the post of a member, because this member heavily offended me.

It was just because of starting a political discussion and he blamed russia for war, but when you write that not just Russia also USA is in war then he got really bad words and I do not accept that a person starts offending me in a very personal way.

And in my thinking, it is ok that a moderator deletes a political discussion, because this does not work in a motorcycle forum and only causes fights....

And it had nothing to do with the question.
I agree. Personal attacks have no place on any forum.

I also agree that politics are irrelevant on a motorcycle forum. But this is a travel forum and the on-going political situations in the world are massively relevant in many ways which I dont need to point out.

Let's all play nicely eh !!
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I agree. Personal attacks have no place on any forum.

I also agree that politics are irrelevant on a motorcycle forum. But this is a travel forum and the on-going political situations in the world is massively relevant in many ways which I dont need to point out.

Let's all play nicely eh !!
I dont think it is a problem to discuss that a problem in political relations can cause a problem with traveling.

But it should not come to the point where someone starts this "Russia is bad and america is good " discussion.

There is no black and white.
In this politics there is a lot of grey in between.
And this has nothing to do with the original discussion.

And when you start reading western and eastern media stuff, you can find a truth in the middle somewhere.
Nut this also has nothing to do with traveling....
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I dont think it is a problem to discuss that a problem in political relations can cause a problem with traveling.

But it should not come to the point where someone starts this "Russia is bad and america is good " discussion.

There is no black and white.
In this politics there is a lot of grey in between.
And this has nothing to do with the original discussion.

And when you start reading western and eastern media stuff, you can find a truth in the middle somewhere.
Nut this also has nothing to do with traveling....
I absolutely agree..
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