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I heard that it is possible to exit at Ishkashim. But I'm not sure if doing that route through Afghanistan is advisable, given the current situation in that area. Just a few days ago, I heard the US killed a high-ranking Al-Quaida officer with a remote-controlled drone. That might be the first signals that the US are getting less patient with the situation in Waziristan, and who knows what's gonna happen next?
I know China is a pain in the neck & expensive to do officially. But it's safer.

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Bjorn, did you decide which rute will You take?
On which bikes will You and your mates be riding?
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Hi Nixa,

We're 2 people, both going on BMW F650s (Dakar). I'm going to do Europe on my own and then meet up with my travel buddy in Turkey – around end of June probably, then do Iran for about 2-3 weeks before we hit the stans.

I've just finished the first half of the Stans travel plans:
- Turkmenistan 5 days (Ashgabat, gas crater, Kunya-Urgench)
- Uzbekistan around 2 1/2 weeks (Nukus, Muynak for the Aral Sea, back to Nukus, Khiva, Bukhara, Samarkand)
- Tajikistan around 3 weeks (no definite route yet, but would like to go via the Wakhan corridor)
- Kyrgyzstan around 2 weeks
- China via Kashgar to KKH around 5-7 days

It's gonna be stinkin' hot most of the time, but I guess we'll just have to get up with the sun, get a coffee & muesli bar and then straight into the saddle... trying to avoid most of the afternoon heat.

Maybe we'll meet somewhere on the road, or could share the guide costs for China. I'm in touch with another 2-3 people who might(!) consider China/Kashgar.
I think we could get 5-7 days in China including all the paperwork down to around $600-800 dollars each, depending on how many people we are.

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Hi Bjorn

i am gone take more or les the same route
but for the china piece i am e-mailing with newland-travel
and the price i got was 1150$ wen i am alone
with who are you talking in china ?
maybe i can join in for the guide costs ?
i wil be in the stans the same period.


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http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hubb/northern-asia/tajikistan-afghanistan-pakistan-30846

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I should be in the Stans in the beggining of August, and I definitely will not go in China. I't is just to complicted/expensive and it risky. You just can't be 100% sure in the agencies, what if you can't enter and get to know it on the border. Kiss the door and say goodbye! Open season for new transit visas. :confused1:

I checked, at Ishkashim and there should be no problem to enter Afghanistan. The problem is where to exit and enter Pakistan. And I doesn't feel comfortable to be there long, and Khyber Pass is long way south where the toubles are. But if the Dorah Pass is a way to Pakistan then I't shouldn't take more than a day to cross into it. It is near Chitral!

And I would like to see Wakhan.
For Wakhan coridor there is a special permit, you can get it at Ishkashim.
I don't know is it possible to get fuel in Wakhan, it is one of the most remote places on earth and local people there use horses.

Here is a good link for Wakhan:
2004 Mock & O'Neil Wakhan Expedition Report
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You might want a contingency plan if the Afgans don't let you in. A freind of mine had a perfectly valid Afganistan visa and when he got to the border, they simply refused to let him in. Could have just been bad luck or something particularly nasty going on at that time, but you should consider the possibility that the same thing could happen to you.
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