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Bumping this thread up as there are quite few people going to Mongolia next spring/summer and interested in shipping from UB (including myself!)
Very useful info in here!
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Bumping this thread up as there are quite few people going to Mongolia next spring/summer and interested in shipping from UB (including myself!)
Very useful info in here!
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I'm in the process of trying to ship my bike from Mongolia to Germany using Paneuropa (German agent)/ Global Worldwide (Mongolia agent)/ Oasis Guesthouse. I boxed the bike in late August and now, early November, it hasn't even left Mongolia! Paneuropa is predicting all sorts of new fees (that I won't be paying...) and I foresee much more hassle and huge expense.
Please do yourself a favour and DON'T freight from (or to) Mongolia. It's all a monstrous pita.
Freight from Vladivostok is fine via Yuri Melnikov. Or from Irkutsk by train, see http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...re-train-71580
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Hm, I also met many people who were happy with this company.
The person which I drove to mongolia together also sent it with Pan Europa and everything ant quite OK.
But they usually wait till a container is full and in end of august there are not so much drivers anymore …..
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Hm, I also met many people who were happy with this company.
The person which I drove to mongolia together also sent it with Pan Europa and everything ant quite OK.
But they usually wait till a container is full and in end of august there are not so much drivers anymore …..
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A friend used Paneuropa in 2012 and was very satisfied. The problem is (in my opinion) not with Paneuropa in Germany, but with their new incompetent Mongolia agent (GW) and/or changing (in order to attract higher "earnings"/"fees"?) Mongolian Customs procedures.
Which ever way you look at it, since summer 2013 Vladivostok/Irkutsk is easier/cheaper than Ulaan Bataar.
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Is the new agent in the Nippon building?
I was there with my wife to help some people out this summer.
They wanted help with the customs and the procedure in the company.
My wife speaks mongolian, so she could translate.
This company seemed professional to me.
and the custom procedure was a half our work for 3 persons to get their bikes out of the passport…..
So nothing what should be a hassle…..
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Originally Posted by klausmong1
Is the new agent in the Nippon building?
I was there with my wife to help some people out this summer.
They wanted help with the customs and the procedure in the company.
My wife speaks mongolian, so she could translate.
This company seemed professional to me.
and the custom procedure was a half our work for 3 persons to get their bikes out of the passport…..
So nothing what should be a hassle…..
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Don't know if the new agent is in the Nippon building. They were opposite a VW car dealership.
The procedure is as easy or as hard as the new Mongolian agent or "new" Mongolian Customs "rules" want to make them. I can only feed back what Paneuropa is and isn't telling me.
All I know, is I've already had to deal with a lot of bullsh!t and extra "new" expenses and am expecting more "unusual" requests for "fees" to come.
I would not recommend anyone, especially friends that I want to keep, to ship anything into or out of Mongolia.
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Opposite the VW dealer, yes, that is them.
Well, I wonder what happened, it was quite easy when we have been there.
I did not send my bike, i usually drive always foreword and back on my bike….
But the people with we have been there had it quite easy.
Anyway, you have problems, would be interesting if it is just you or if it ends up being a new way of making money….
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All I know, is I've already had to deal with a lot of bullsh!t and extra "new" expenses and am expecting more "unusual" requests for "fees" to come.
I would not recommend anyone, especially friends that I want to keep, to ship anything into or out of Mongolia.
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Latest news on my Honda Transalp = No news, except that the German agent has agreed that the extra new "magic" fees will not be paid by me.
Honda shipping timeline:
1. Bike crated in late August
2. Container scheduled to leave in October
3. As per today still not left Mongolia, possibly going next week... Or not.
An aside: The previous container to mine left Mongolia 3 months late!
This year: I was also involved in getting another bike I bought (Rebadged Aprilia XChallenge) from Magadan to Europe.
1. Handed RBA to Olga at DVS tour in Magadan around 20August for journey on deck of ship to Vladivostok.
2. Transferred to container and loaded with car and 2 other bikes into container to Rotterdam (using Yuri Melnikov at Links Ltd)
3. Bike collected by me in Rotterdam on 23November (Dutch customs agent = Peet van Dam at Mainport)
= 3 months. Olga, Yuri and Peet were all competent and professional. The entire procedure ran without even the hint of a problem.
Conclusion: You win some, you lose some.... Or... Avoid Mongolia as a shipping hub if you want to increase your winnings above a ratio of 50%
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Hi Chris thanks for feedback.
No firm plans yet depending on which state the bikes will be when we get to UB. However if we can ride we will get to Irkutsk and get the trans Siberian from there.
If bikes disintegrate we will abandon them! The advantage of cheap eBay bought bikes
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Hi. I know that the bikes from : Centraal Azie Zijderoute - Motor Trails - Avontuurlijke Motorreizen
will be transported back by sambor. You will find him here on the HUBB.
In case you want to abandon your bikes in Kyrgyzstan, we will help you.... and flights to Europe are only around Euro 300.- at the moment.
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