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Which tires for Kaz + Mongolia
Hi

I´m planning a tour this summer to mongolia, through Ukraine Russia Kazackstan, mongolia. And back to Europe through Russia. Ca. 25kkm

I´m not sure about wich tires to use.

I would like to use TKC80´s the hole way. But they kind of wear out pretty fast. I was planning on starting with what ever i have on at that time and bring a fresh pair of Tkc80 on the back. And order a extra pair to be ready for me in Novosibirsk.

The Heidenau K60 is also a option, i would just prefere to have tires that will not limit where I'm going. Fx going down a small forest track to find the perfect camp site.


What's your opinion or experiences ?
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I do the same like you.

My plans are, that i drive a K6 Scout or Mitas 07 on my way to Mongolia.
Somewhere in the Altai before Mongolian Border i will change to the TKC80 and still take the old tires with me.

So i have new good Offroad Tires for Mongolia ( and we will need them there ) and still can change back to the old but not bad tires on my way back if i need to.
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I personally have switched to karoo 2 front and K60 heidenau for the rear (both bought in Moscow) before the Altai/Mongolia from anakee 2. The karoo 2 was dead after 6000 km the k60 heidenau lasted 17 000 km. Brilliant combo for the offroad of this country.
Both tyres have been through severe punishment and hold quite well.
Fortunately, knowing that the karoo2 wouldn't last, I carried my front anakee 2 until Ulaanbataar.

Now, having done the road, I would suggest a mixt: Tkc80 front and k60 rear,
Why? The Tkc front has a better grip then the k60 but the tkc 80 rear has a poor longevity. Any way, the k60 rear has better grip and longevity then the tkc.

I would advise to NOT carry spare tyres in Mongolia, the road is already pretty hard, you wouldn't want to carry extra weight. With the combo tkc80front/k60rear if you change before Mongolia (ie Barnaul) you will be able to do all Mongolia and get out of it and ride to a place where you can find new tyres... ( I have now changed my k60 rear... in Tokyo...)
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Of course a mix is also not a bad idear. Tkc80 front And K60 rear. And then a extra Tkc80 front tire on the back.

I was planning to get a new set of tkc80 in Barnaul before Mongolia and leave the other tires there until we come back on the way home.

We will mostly camp. So we need some kind of tires to sneak around of the track to find a camp spot.
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I got 15,000 kms out of a front TKC 80 on a DR650 2up in South America. With the Heidi K60 rear this is a good conbination, what bike are you riding?
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Sounds good, i´m ridding a XT 600 3ds.
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The Heidenau K60 is also a option, i would just prefere to have tires that will not limit where I'm going. Fx going down a small forest track to find the perfect camp site.


What's your opinion or experiences ?
I think you are kidding yourself if you think a TKC80 will go where a K60 cant. Or if you think a K60 will not get you to difficult to access campsites. I know people who have ridden the Road of Bones Old Summer Road and BAM road on K60s / Mefo Super Explorers.
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Thanks a lot, this is good information for me
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Thank you for all the inputs , its has been very informative and help full.
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Hi guys,

I'm planning on doing Barcelona - Ulaanbaatar this summer through France-Italy-Hungary-Ukraine-Russia-Kazakhstan-Russia-Mongolia.

My idea was to start on road tyres (Anakee 2, as they seem to last quite long) and carry a set of K60s to put them on when the going gets tougher or the Anakees wear out.

I'm counting on putting the K60s on at Astrakhan before riding into Kazakhstan.

A few doubts:

Do you reckon the K60s can make it across Kazakhstan, into Mongolia and then from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk, or is that too long? I don't plan on riding like a maniac.

Would it be better to keep the Anakees in Kazakhstan? What is the road condition? I want to do Astrakhan-Aralsk-Shmkent-Almaty-Semey before heading to Barnaul.

Finally, how good are the K60s offroad in Mongolia? I'd like to take the northern route.

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I wrote to some guys, who did this traveling already and i will translate what they wrote me:

The Northern Route in mongolia is much greener, what means mud and in the worst case undoable river crossings.
Which causes most drivers to turn around and go a different route.
I know some who have done the northern route, but they are not much.

Southern route in from Makat to Aralsk is not a street its shit x 3
Next time i will go the northern route in Kazhachstan
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Hi guys,

I'm planning on doing Barcelona - Ulaanbaatar this summer through France-Italy-Hungary-Ukraine-Russia-Kazakhstan-Russia-Mongolia.

My idea was to start on road tyres (Anakee 2, as they seem to last quite long) and carry a set of K60s to put them on when the going gets tougher or the Anakees wear out.

I'm counting on putting the K60s on at Astrakhan before riding into Kazakhstan.

A few doubts:

Do you reckon the K60s can make it across Kazakhstan, into Mongolia and then from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk, or is that too long? I don't plan on riding like a maniac.

Would it be better to keep the Anakees in Kazakhstan? What is the road condition? I want to do Astrakhan-Aralsk-Shmkent-Almaty-Semey before heading to Barnaul.

Finally, how good are the K60s offroad in Mongolia? I'd like to take the northern route.

Thanks!
Whats your route in KZ? If its an all asphalt road, you dont have to change to your K60s until later.

Having said that your K60s should make it to Irkutsk from Astrakhan.

K60s are fine for Mongolia ... especially if you are not racing it.
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Hi guys,

I'm planning on doing Barcelona - Ulaanbaatar this summer through France-Italy-Hungary-Ukraine-Russia-Kazakhstan-Russia-Mongolia.

My idea was to start on road tyres (Anakee 2, as they seem to last quite long) and carry a set of K60s to put them on when the going gets tougher or the Anakees wear out.

I'm counting on putting the K60s on at Astrakhan before riding into Kazakhstan.

A few doubts:

Do you reckon the K60s can make it across Kazakhstan, into Mongolia and then from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk, or is that too long? I don't plan on riding like a maniac.

Would it be better to keep the Anakees in Kazakhstan? What is the road condition? I want to do Astrakhan-Aralsk-Shmkent-Almaty-Semey before heading to Barnaul.

Finally, how good are the K60s offroad in Mongolia? I'd like to take the northern route.

Thanks!
I put on Heidenaus in Hanover and rode to Ulan Batar through Russia and Kaz, Kyrg, China, and there was still a lot of tread on them, enough for me to ride Thailand, Laos and then back into Thailand

I rode the southern 'road' and the tyres were fine on a heavy Vstrom
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Deadlines. The only reason to be wary. Don't make yourself go somewhere in Mongolia by a certain date. We had no choice and paid for it by damaged bikes, personally worn out, all because we needed to be somewhere by a certain date

Take it easy, don't do 400km days like we did
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Well, i drive a Honda Transalp, i will have Aluminium Boxes, but i will take care about the weight and dont do me any stress.
If i want to ride 400km + , i will do it, if i dont want, then i rest on a nice river and relax.

Still, i want to arrive, but if its a day or two more, i dont care
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