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I listened to this podcast on Adventure Rider Radio - it is about vibration on bikes and ways to eliminate / reduce the effects so food for thought and pointers as to what can be done.
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I listened to this podcast on Adventure Rider Radio - it is about vibration on bikes and ways to eliminate / reduce the effects so food for thought and pointers as to what can be done.
Thanks for the pointer - I listened to most of that (skipped the adverts and a few other bits) but it didn't tell me much I hadn't worked out for myself (that bikes vibrate, and some bikes vibrate more than others and that for most of us vibration is so far down the 'wish list' as to come as a surprise when we ride something for the first time).

What I found depressing about it was that most of their 'fixes' - change the gearing, fill your handlebars with lead shot etc - have been around since the year dot, and were well known to British bike riders in the 50's / 60's. That we're still talking about doing the same now is a pretty depressing indictment of the bike industry (either that or those two old codgers they interviewed still live in the 50's / 60's ) Yes, a lot of bikes now have it engineered out one way or another but put enough miles on any bike and you'll feel the effects of vibration. Even my GoldWing 1800 will leave you with tingles after a long day. You can zone a lot of it out if you ride any bike regularly, but put a non rider on as a pillion and they'll notice it straight away.
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All single engine bikes will vibrate or zing a bit through the foot pegs ./ tank.
Great for a bit of charecter , but a nighmare after 2 / 3 days .
Worst 2 bikes that come to mind are...............
1 yamaha xt 600 e
2 Ktm 640 lc

There are proably a few more
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I have owned 3 big single cylindred bikes, a Honda Dominator NX650, Yamaha XT660Z and a Suzuki Dr650 and I also rode a rented Himalayan in the mountains of northern Thailand earlier this year and btw I have also ridden Royal Enfield Bullet 500s in Nepal, India and Bhutan - but I have never ridden a KLR.
All of these single cylindree bikes do vibrate a littlebit, and the RE Bullet most and the Tenere second most. But to be honest I have never been really bothered about it. After a 10-12 hour day on the Tenere my hands was a bit numb but 20-30 minutes after jumping off the bike my hands was ok again. So that KLR must have vibrated a lot…LOL
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So that KLR must have vibrated a lot…LOL
Damage to nerve function doesn't work that way--it's more like hearing damage, in which when you go to a loud concert or use a loud tool your hearing may suffer for a bit, then recover. But in the longer term, if you do this repeatedly you're likely to suffer permanent damage which never gets better. Furthermore, people are different, and what happens to you doesn't necessarily correspond to what happens to the next person.

I am no expert, but I do have various kinds of permanent nerve damage (for which I've now had multiple major surgeries), and my advice would be to be sure never to do stuff which has longstanding neurological effects--numbness which lasts 3 months certainly qualifies--and to refrain from thinking that your experience so far in life can predict how it's going to work in the future--for you or for anyone else.

Just another perspective to consider. It's difficult to learn important life lessons from the experiences of other people, but by the time it happens to you personally it may be too late. How this might apply to vibrating handlebars and what steps may therefore be worth taking in response is an open--but worthwhile IMHO--question.

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Damage to nerve function doesn't work that way--it's more like hearing damage, in which when you go to a loud concert or use a loud tool your hearing may suffer for a bit, then recover. But in the longer term, if you do this repeatedly you're likely to suffer permanent damage which never gets better. Furthermore, people are different, and what happens to you doesn't necessarily correspond to what happens to the next person.

I am no expert, but I do have various kinds of permanent nerve damage (for which I've now had multiple major surgeries), and my advice would be to be sure never to do stuff which has longstanding neurological effects--numbness which lasts 3 months certainly qualifies--and to refrain from thinking that your experience so far in life can predict how it's going to work in the future--for you or for anyone else.

Just another perspective to consider. It's difficult to learn important life lessons from the experiences of other people, but by the time it happens to you personally it may be too late. How this might apply to vibrating handlebars and what steps may therefore be worth taking in response is an open--but worthwhile IMHO--question.

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By all means - I have never said anything about how nerve damage develops, I just mentioned that I have ridden several big single cylindred bikes several hundred thousand kms with having any nerve damage so I presumed your experiences and following health problems was because of your KLR had more vibrations than other similar bikes. It can be or not be because of the bike specific characteristics, or handlebars and weights added to handlebars, or other factors. I also said it in a jokingly way. I acknowledge your problems and hope your doing
well nowadays despite the health problems you mentioned.
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The bike I have ridden which vibrates and buzzes the most is BMW's highly refined and luxurious S1000XR.

And I think I've ridden and owned all the popular singles out there.

The S1000XR buzzes and vibrates at such a frequency that your fillings rattle loose and your corneas detach from your eyeballs.

So bad was the problem, BMW released a free campaign to add rubber dampers to the steering clamps. Which didn't do a lot.

So to say "Singles vibrate" is a little ambiguous.

Some singles do. Some don't. It depends on how the motor is tuned. If the motor has a large flywheel or balance weight etc. And simple things like if you have rubber footpegs and thick rubber grips.
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