The OP just needs to realize from the start that in the absence of any sense of how such things work (which is what his/her two posts indicate), it's not going to turn out the way he/she dreams it will.

Personally, it doesn't sound like a pushbike sort've a tour to me; this would take many years, perhaps decades. And no one who's not tried it can really predict whether they'll be able to sustain carrying, for example, food to last "weeks at a time," while "wild camping" even in Europe or North America, much less elsewhere on a pushbike. And no matter whether pushbike, motorbike, backpack or whatever--probably it's better to ease in gradually rather than burn all bridges in pursuit of a totally unsustainable pipe dream.

But maybe that's just me and my old, tired, worn-to-a-frazzle middle-aged sensibilities speaking.

Good luck!

Mark

Have a look at Lonely Planets bike section and get some inspiration.

Also crazy guy on a bike site.

For a cheap trip look for south east asia. You don't even need a tent there.

Wild camping sounds cheap and romantic but isn't possible everywhere

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+1 for this site. LOADS of inspirational journals from people who have done exactly what you are asking about ala "push" bike.

There is plenty on this site too.

Plenty of good advice in this thread alone.

Go for it.

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Good film of Alaska - Argentina by push bike for those interested (a tandem though...)

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Did you ever go for it then Cysne

So did you do it?
Or do you still wanna do it?
If you want company; i'm up for it!
I have no money though. only like.. 1000€ or so. i can get a little more if i find a effin job.
but i plan on mostly catch my poultry in the wild. do some containerskipping and rely on hospitality!
let me know bro

Sounds like great fun to me!

You wouldn’t need food to last weeks at a time – maybe a couple days at most in less populated areas. Always some granola bars or similar as an emergency reserve. Clean water will be an issue in some areas, meaning you pack a filtration system or buy bottles.

You’d probably want to research visa duration and possible extensions … if some country provides two-week visas and it’s gonna take you a month to cross it, you’d need to figure that out.

Why not? If you’ve got the time and funds and the will to do it, do it. You’ll find out soon enough if you love it or hate it. It does require a particular personality (i.e. slightly whacked!) to make it over the long haul especially if you are going solo.

Really the transport shouldn’t be that costly. Airfares are down these days, and all airlines last I knew will transport a bicycle in a box for … hmmmm not sure. It was $75 USD when I was doing my long-distance bicycle touring in the late ‘80s.

Upfront costs might be a hit if you select the best -- i.e. lightest & most durable -- gear. And some hotel costs, or costs for a proper campground with shower … you can’t really wild camp every single night, can you? I couldn’t!

Good luck, sounds like a blast.

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You will learn far more on the road than from a forum !!

Going by push iron means you wont have any legal complications with your vehicle.

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Hah! No wonder we had conflicting views, this is in the bicycle section isn't it?

On the food note - that was on the basis of the book such as ''Into the wild'' and that guy that tried to be self sustainable in Canada for 90 days for a TV programme.
You could look at it that way, but when you currently have no real bridges to burn, with my somewhat warped sense of relationships and so, I don't have any real problems, I do realize the length that I am talking, I know it could take years, that's the whole point, if I wanted a 6month blast I could use my motorbike, if it goes tit's up, I can always go home and say I tried.

That's a good idea, thanks, will defiantly check out Lonely Planets section.

I guess it isn't always possible, but will hopefully be my main form of sleeping arrangements.


Thanks for the more positive words, I assume selling my motorbike will fund most of what I need to buy, good tent, sleeping bag, £3000 or so should get me a damn good bike and equipment...

I guess the length of the ride is the big thing, visa's would be a consideration.

That's what I really want to do! But I guess it's not that possible...

Things I seem to need to worry about is:
1. Visa's, including a general route of country's that I want to go through
2. Some type of routine, ie 1 night every 10 in a hotel or real campsite, as you say, complete wild would make some hygiene problems and what not.
3. How much weight I could carry on a bike,
4. Keeping in contact and mapping, I assume it would be hard keeping people updated with my movement, it would limit the possibility of GPS and such, unless I can get an alternator powered by peddling.
5. Do I have the balls!

You dont give any indication as to your skills.
I would suggest you camp some where locally for a week, and just move on a bit each day. That will allow you to rethink the equipment you need.
It can be done, but I would like to have a phone number that could put funds in my hand in an emergency. Maybe a friend or relative. This is in case you lose your possessions. Carry only emergency rations (especially canned meat/fish) and buy food locally as you travel. Buy what is on obvious offer as being local it is likely to be cheap and in season.
You need to carry a day or twos water supply.
Note there is an often misquoted reference to needing two litres a day.
This is actually wrong as they are only quoting half of the quote. The original is " a man needs about two litres of water per day MOST OF WHICH WILL BE OBTAINED FROM FOOD". Naturally some foods contain more water than others. Unlevened bread can be made easily and very cheaply. It can also usually be bought locally for not much more in countries that use it.
I generally use a posh campsite once every 4/5 days if possible. Sometimes BnB or cheap hotel. Sometimes you need to recharge your own batteries.
Truck stops often are a source of cheap good food. ( only pick a well used one. if it is empty probably for a reason). I generally make my own breakfast, buy ingredients for a salad/snack type lunch, and make own evening meal. If a promising opportunity to buy value for money meal comes along, I may well take advantage sometimes as a 'treat'. In France this usually takes the form of a 'routier' at lunchtime. Some also often have showers (as do many of the laybyes in France). It is sometimes possible to stop for a shower and maybe eat, then ask where you can pitch a tent for the night. Many places ( including some resturants ) provide overnight camping for camping cars etc when in the smaller towns and villages.
When wild camping be either completely out of sight or in full view (especially of the lorry drivers) DO NOT be the only person in view on a small unmanned lay by visible to the passing road traffic..

While motorcycling across siberia in early June this year I overtook two cyclists, each about 4 days apart, betwen Tomsk and Novosibirisk. Seeing bikes with panniers I recognised them as fellow aventurers (mode of transport is immaterial to me - if it has 2 wheels I talk!) and stopped for a chat. The first was a German guy who I later met my pure chance on Ohlon Island in Lake Baikal and the other was Sam Gam, a young man from Cornwall.

I overtook Sam a few weeks a 1,000 miles further down his road approaching Irkutsk. I had deviated to the Republics of Altai, Tuva and stopped for days in other places.

Sam is still on the road and you will probably learn much from his inspirational blog at Cycling Round The World

As to costs, we on Sibirsky Extreme tried to work on a daily budget of GBP25 for food, accommodation and fuel. Accommodation was what we sometimes exceeded on - but we did not camp if there was a bed to be bought! Actually we only camped about 7 or 8 nights in 4 months.

Once in Russia, if camping 'wild' (which is perfectly accepted) your only real expense is food and that should be well under GBP2 for a really flling, simple meal at the many main road cafes. Cities cost, though.

Good luck. Enjoy it!

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get any bike, and go. go somewhere for a week. then a month. then a year. etc.

you don't need to plan anything, as long as you are just travelling and don't have any notion of an end-point. if you're setting your brain thinking you're heading to russia, then do a bit of planning and sort the visas. otherwise just get on the boat away from this rancid island and go.

have a look at (ie buy) Adventure Cycle-Touring Handbook by Stephen Lord.

1. Visa's, including a general route of country's that I want to go through

normally a lot easier than you think, but worth checking in advance

2. Some type of routine, ie 1 night every 10 in a hotel or real campsite, as you say, complete wild would make some hygiene problems and what not.

if you want routine, get a job. the minimum routine you have to do is wake up, pack, ride, eat, sleep, wake up.... for hygiene, some tar soap and get yourself into the nearest river.

3. How much weight I could carry on a bike,

less is better. you have to tour to know what you can leave behind. rear racks are about 25 kg, front about 10 kg. the more weight the more likely you'll pop spokes. remember carrying food and water weight a lot.

4. Keeping in contact and mapping, I assume it would be hard keeping people updated with my movement, it would limit the possibility of GPS and such, unless I can get an alternator powered by peddling.

GPS? why bother? on a cycle you don't really go fast enough to go that far out of the way. and 'out of the way' might be the best place you go. use maps.

5. Do I have the balls!

dunno, do you?

IF you really want to do it then you will soon find out if you have the balls selling up all your unwanted goods to start with will make you closer to realising the adventure and either drive it forward or make you rethink, i personally are not good at forward planning how would i know if i would need a visa for somwhere or when unless i new to the day /week id be arriving (easier with petrol power) Do europe first then build on the trip as you learn BUT go for it ROB