"The link has nothing to do with Chinese plated bikes with the rider having a correct Visa with all the correct documents to entry China legally and is more do with........"

From my understanding Single-handed dosen't have a Chinese driving license that would be one of the correct documents you would need I think.

Here's how the process go's entering Xinjiang from Pakistan go trough Pakistan's border check then go further down the road to China border crossing here's where the fun begins go through there visa checks and your travel agent/tour guide/fixer should be waiting for you to get you through this process smoothly because they have gaunxi and because legally your not allowed to travel independently with your vehicle in China with out a tour operator who is with you at all times. They take you down to Kashgar and get you a temp licence and plates and off you go. That costs money alot of money Single-handed works on a low budget. If you think that link doesn't have any think to do with you(even though you have all the correct docs and license and visa's) or any other foreigner trying to come into Xinjiang from Pakistan you don't know Xinjiang. How many times you been to Xinjiang nuff said.

@ bigdamo and nuff said


first I have to say, that single handed did a fantastic trip around China and I am glad he posted it here on the Hubb for bike travelers to see, understand and learn. Of course he did not know all the laws, rules and regulations in China, but he did not hurt anybody or steal anything and he lived a freedom that he wanted to share in this post with other travelers.

as there are thousands of laws being ratified every day everywhere, not only in China, who knows when you are breaking a law or not? when you need what license or what paper? sure you could be stoped by police (fear), at a border (more fear) or get into an accident (even more fear), but deal with the situation when it happens and than deal with it in a decent way, and dont be scared.

@ bigdamo, you sound like one of those that told me here on the HUBB it cant be done to cross China on my own, with my own bike, without a guide. Maybe you replied to my threads than, I dont remember and I want to go and look at them again. Nuff said did a fantastic journey from China to Europe and back and he suggested to single handed a certain document (an ATA Carnet), that worked for him to leave and enter China. I dont know if this document would work for the border/bike/route that single handed is planing, but you seem to know ....

.... so please tell us, how many times did you cross a Chinese border with a motorcycle on your own? And how did you do it?

I crossed two chinese borders and the whole country in 2015, incl. Xingjang province and I was NEVER asked for a Chinese driving license.

Just my 2 cents worth tonight ...

mika

" so please tell us, how many times did you cross a Chinese border with a motorcycle on your own? And how did you do it? "

Three times to Pakistan two times to Kazakstan. In my car. I have been going to Xinjiang since 2000 and continue to do so. I lived and worked in Xinjiang for a number of years so I have all the legal documents. Gaunxi helped me out many a time. Xinjiang is an autonomous region not a province and what happens in Xinjiang can be totally different to what happens in the rest of China. I never used a ATA. I have however been asked for my driving license many a time at many check points in Xinjiang.

Hi Bigdamo
I re-enter China on the 20th September 2016 so not long ago? at the border crossing with Khorgas port/ Huoerguosi heading East on the Gouzigou Expressway (motorbike are allowed on the Toll road )
toward Urumqi, after spending 1 night in this city I passed through Kumul/Dunhuang/Jiuquan with my final destination being a town called Bajiao which is about 200km East of Chengdu.
Due to unrest in Xinjiang Province, the whole area is strictly controlled so much so on the Expressway Army/police checkpoint was every 30/50km.
These checkpoint involved all people in cars/bus in leaving their transport and checked and searched.
Most of the time I being on a motorbike and they could see I was a western was just wave me passed and on the very few occasions, I was stopped all I every had to show was my Passport?
My biggest problem was getting petrol because petrol is controlled and monetized.
The petrol station is surround by barbwire and army/police personnel to ensure all people buying petrol needs to scan their Chinese I.D, just to entry the petrol station area then you need to use the same I.D. card to allow the petrol machine to work?.

Needless to say, I DONT have a Chinese I.D. but that never stop me getting petrol.

I consider my information is the most up to date available on the internet for this area as of today.

Not sure how recently you was in the area but things change from day to day as you surely well know that?


Nuff Said.

Maybe I have to get on a plane in a couple of days because I ain't traveling the week before Chinese New Year in China to go and visit the relatives and partake of that joyous occasion which is two weeks of eating way to much food and drinking way to much Bajiou while fireworks incessantly go off day and night at any hour with relos who are in the army and work on the borders and other areas like the big T and through out China.

But maybe just maybe there will be a big snow storm for the next few weeks and maybe I don't have to go.

"Most of the time I being on a motorbike and they could see I was a western was just wave me passed and on the very few occasions, I was stopped all I every had to show was my Passport?"

You think. There are more than thirteen ethnic minority groups in Xinjiang. A number of them look like "western" You could look like a Urghyur or Kazah as well. They get checked quite alot. You were lucky but you have only traveled through Xinjiang once(don't count travelling back) and that was just a quick as you please pass through.

That's great news, I hope you miss the big snow storm and you can make it to the airport ok.
Nice to have a more up to date information concerning the availability of petrol, weather, road condition, the general position of police/army roadblocks and a picture of an ethnic minority group in Xinjiang. Chinese person riding a big bike looking like a man from outer space with blonde hair and blue eyes and can't talk or understand a word of Chinese but has a perfect English accent.
Can't be hard to spot must be 10000000s of them.



Nuff Said

Don't hold your breath Prince waiting for me to give you any info on Xinjiang.

Ho never minds that's a shame.

I see you have edited your post from "I never intended to" to what's above.Enjoy your next trip to Xinjiang.

Don't know about the man from outer space bit but yeah there are 1000's of blonde and red hair blue eyes that can't talk or understand a word of Chinese in Xinjiang(at least quite a few don't want to) and ride motorcycles for many of them it is there livelihood.. If you bothered to get off the highway and went the back roads you might have met some. It is there custom to invite in fellow blonde and red hair blue eyes well they think initially that you are a fellow kazah into their Yurt.

is this for real?

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