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18 Sep 2017
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There is almost nothing in between the towns except some prayer mounds and for lunch the guys had ice cream. Sara was stopping every 45 min for an emergency visit to a culvert as there is no shade or shelter. Unlike at home gas stations and many restaurants do not have toilets or out houses even. Most don't have running water.
 Tosontsengel to Tsetserleg-5 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Tetserleg-5 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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 Tosontsengel to Tsetserleg-7 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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18 Sep 2017
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19 Sep 2017
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The hotel said they would let us stay at least until 3 and the other guys went on 118 km to a ger camp in Karkhorin.
 Screen Shot 2017-08-17 at 21.39.10 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
By 2 pm she could stand up and did eat some toast. The road is paved and passes a lot of ger camps and horse farms. there are a few bumpy section, but Sara seemed ok.
 Khokhan-2 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Khokhan-3 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin-2 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Khokhan-5 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin-3 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
Moving the Ger home!
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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19 Sep 2017
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It was not until we turned off on to the gravel road for about 1 km that she started to feel dizzy and by the time she got off the bike she could barely walk. Dan half carried her to the Ger. More gastrolyte and by 10 pm she was 85% better. That was scary for sure, but not as scary as a visit to a rural Mongolian medical clinic. The other guys had done an off road route while waiting for us and said it was amazing.
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin-19 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
The plan was for all the guys to ride again today while Sara rested, but just before they left Wolfgang noted his new Wilber’s rear shock was leaking oil. He packed up and headed to Ulanbaatar to see if the KTM there can help him out. We will meet him at the Famous Oasis Ger camp there tomorrow.
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19 Sep 2017
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Dan and Trevor took off for a days ride and went up the same valley that Trevor was on yesterday, but on the other side of the river. They got to where they wanted to try to cross the river, but it was still pretty deep. Luckily a truck came by and he asked if they wanted a lift across the river.
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin-4 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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20 Sep 2017
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On the way we stopped in town to explore the Erdene Zuu Monastery , which is the earliest surviving Buddhist monastery in Mongolia.
 Tsetserleg to Karakhorin-21 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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20 Sep 2017
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We made it about 70 km before we had to get the rain suits on and it continued to pour for the next 4 hours. Sara was still suffering a bit from the food poisoning (stopped to vomit several times) and so this was a pretty dreadful day all round. We did run into the second woman we have seen on a bike and they just finished the same route as us. You have to give her credit as she left Swiss with no off road experience until she hit the Pamir! The reported horrendous UB traffic was not so bad probably as it was pouring and Saturday afternoon. The roads were flooded in the city.
 Ulaanbaatar by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 Ulaanbaatar-2 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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22 Sep 2017
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The first bike we saw when we arrived had BC plates!!! Dominck is also from Vancouver and is setting out in the next few days east on our route and so we could fill him in. We loaded him up with our PDF map of Mongolia with the most current road conditions, the maps.me app and info on hotel and such.
 Ulaanbaatar by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
 IMG_9440 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
There is a lot of activity here with broken bikes of all kinds 3 Wilber’s shocks including Wolfgang's, broken frames, and various broken off bits. They have a huge covered work area that is filled with bikes and a mechanic next door. There are some German people stating out here on tours and they suited up in their brand new off road gear and motocross boots right out of the boxes never used! One young guy had purchased a Teneree from another rider and unfortunately did not have the experience to know this bike it too tall for him and he has already fallen over trying to leave the parking lot. He was supposed to set off today across the country, but unless he can make some serious modifications he is in real trouble. There is a young couple here from New Zealand who bought 2 Chinese 250’s and plan the same route as us, but maybe “farther off the main route”. He is wearing a climbing helmet and has two huge back packs strapped to the side of the bike and a large bag on the seat. None of these is waterproof. She has less gear, but admits she has only ridden a motorcycle 8-9 times before. She stalled the bike 10 times trying to get out of the gravel parking area. She is wearing gum boots on her feet. I fear for their safety with this sort of set up and experience.
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22 Sep 2017
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been a while since I'd been to that monestry, Ive been going over my photos thew other day, great to see thew changes since my visit... thank you
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22 Sep 2017
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There was a battle of the brides for space on the stairs before they lost the few rays of sunlight.
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We took a cab back in a Prius among all the Prius!!!
 Ulaanbaatar-15 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
Wolfgang decided he must ride the 50 km to the “huge” Genghis statue south of the city even in the rain since he will not be back like us. He also ran into Dominick who decided to set out west today also. When we asked so you are leaving this late in the day his parting words were yes, but you never know I might be back. Well 2315 and he just arrived….off for a  with the guys to discuss his “shattered confidence”.
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22 Sep 2017
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Today's plan is to get close to the Russian border, which is 354 km north and then do the border and the ride to Ulan Ude the next day. We have agreed if the forecast is wrong and it is still rainy we will say goodbye to Wolfgang and stay here to wait out the weather. We endured 4 hours of horrific weather yesterday to catch up to him here or we would have stayed put where we were. His plan is to book it all the way to Ulan Ude, but this may take more than 12 hours.
 Ulaanbaatar-6 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
So the plan for us is to go 330 km to Sukhbaatar, which is 24 km from the border and it is supposed to have more accommodations to offer than the border town of Altanbulag.
 Screen Shot 2017-08-22 at 23.13.21 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
We were in no hurry to get out of here and finally gassed up at 10, found an ATM that worked, and then spent an hour getting across the city on the only thru road to access the road north. There is not much traffic here and the road is in pretty good condition except for a few holes.
 North to The Russian Border-3 by Sara & Daniel Pedersen, on Flickr
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