Hi Tim that's a very good point of course I'll post about it

I'd prefer for the thread to remain deleted though I just had to get the rejection done from my point of view an I pulled it down as my opinion very quickly changed once things started going wrong, now that's all said and done with the Himalayan I can post up about what happened
I pulled it down as I couldn't stand by my initial opinion of the bike and didn't want that to influence anyone who might have just read it in part I also removed my youtube vids for the same reason as a few reached out saying they had bought the vstrom 650xt off the back of my vids when I had one and agreed with the assessment of it as a road based overland bike
I can also comment on the 390 adventure as well as we had x2 of those which got rejected due to issues again with the electronics at 147 and 269 miles which was the first time I'd ever had to do that which was very stressful on the Himalayan the dealer was much more professional understanding and apologised for the issues and within one week of me speaking to them i had a full refund, it's interesting to note that your contract when you buy the bike is with the dealer not the manufacturer.
I just couldn't believe I had to go through it a second time round.
Bike wise I've had the following bikes over the years
Had quite a few problems with the Himalayan covered it more in detail on the video as there's quite a bit of back and forth with my dad about what happened and his views on it all as it transpired as he's trying to decide what to get himself, and also on the ktms.
Let's start with the Himalayan. After the KTM Rejections I got an R1200GS TE but was struggling with the weight of it due to a shoulder injury I now struggle with so I was gutted when I had to trade that in for a lighter bike and based on online reviews I got the Himalayan aiming to just swap out the relays which I did the day I got it along with better bars and a seat as the original seat was no good.
The swingarm was seized from the factory which wasn't sorted at PDI, miss aligned front yokes, Miss aligned headlight (this was missed at the first service at a different dealer headlight was next to useless on the night time ride back) brake light switch was mentioned but parts availability is very hard to get with them, brake switch failed then I fitted a new genuine brake switch after some hunting to find one at a dealer that failed within 30 mins and nearly lead me to getting rear ended on an emergency stop so I drew the line at that and pushed for rejection which the dealer accepted within two days and agreed with and apologised for what happened.
They arnt a cheap bike any more at £5,050 (the Honda cost me 6,450 so not much of a jump any more) so decided to jump ship while I was able with all this happening some issues before and some post service Inc bits missed at pdi and first service that I rectified.
I drew the line with it once it started to risk a safety issue as from a personal point of view I started to question what else might have been skimped on within the bike when I posted asking about the rally on my instagram which is still up post wise one person replied saying that there gearbox had let go at 1200 miles. It's a shame as I really enjoyed riding it but it seems Enfield are ignoring issues like the poor relays that should be fixed from the get go.
Thats the Himalayan pretty much covered.
Before that we had two Ktm 390 Adventures which had quite a few major issues dad sold his gsxr 750 2009 which he had owned since new to go to Iceland with my initially we planned on taking the 390s as they seemed according to the reviews to offer the right mix of what we needed. The biggest problem was finding one to buy let alone test ride at the time.
Both 390s had issues with excessive condensation in the displays where it was beading down the entire display in mine and on a very cold day on the cat and fiddle I couldn't read it, dads had a stalling issue when changing down, his arrived with bad tyre valves which were going flat in 4 hours bikes had been pdi'd 3 days before. His had Corrosion on sections of the frame under the finish, on it from new, mine had a broken side panel, mine ran much rougher than dad's engine wise so we rejected them at 147 and 269 miles as ktm had no fix for the displays some people are on 3+ displays which are £800+ a pop. Dads bike wouldn't restart after a stall for a few mins an on one ride he was stranded in the outside lane of a dual carriageway with no hazard warning lights as ktm don't fit them and nearly got hit by a van so we sent them back for a full refund. Was a shame as they were quick bikes to ride.
The displays also are not covered by the warranty in the UK and that's mentioned in the warranty book.
Coming from the world of Japanese bikes it surprised me tbh as anyone knows I was absolutley in love with my vstrom 650xt but with the shoulder wanted to try something lighter especially after listening and watching Austin Vinces stuff
I was unsure whether to post about the issues as I got a fair bit of backlash and sarcasm on some of the facebook groups when I mentioned the issues I was having.
For me my motorcycles are my main form of transport and I don't have a car for the past 4 years I've used a Norton 650ss as a daily and through all the winters when I got the Himmy I took her off the road for a decoke so had to sort something fast when the Himmy started going wrong got insanely lucky finding the Rally as it was a cancelled order that got listed just as I got off the phone with the Enfield dealer.
Obviously I know everyone else's experiences could completely differ but I think it's important to cover some off the issues that they seem to be ignoring on them. They also wont sell you a service manual for the Enfields, I've got the up to date one on the way for the Honda from the US as they still print them out there.
Hopefully this will help anyone who's considering one of the three bikes I've bought I can't comment on the 310gs Chris Scott has some good posts up about that online though.
If anyone want's to know anything else ask away and I'll try and cover it hopefully this gives a bit of info on what can go wrong with the Indian built options. I believe the crf is made out in Thailand now so that should be interesting my t100c was made out there though an that was nice