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Old 22 Mar 2016
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Bongiorno again.
Regarding border between ABH/Georgia and AB/Russia. From Georgian side you can enter ABH only as pedestrian. Period.
They allow transport traffic only for local ABH cars with permits.
From Russian side you can enter ABH using own transport. Border crossing name is PSOU. You will need bike registration papers, driving license, travel passport. If bike registered on somebody else you would need notarized power attorney letter stating that you can ride the bike and can take it out of Italy.
When you cross the border they will charge you some money for crossing and medical insurance (numbers always changing, amounts are small).
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Regarding border between ABH/Georgia and AB/Russia. From Georgian side you can enter ABH only as pedestrian. Period.
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Thank you.
What means "period"?
No problem. I'll enter from Russia in Abkhazia. It's only 500 km more. I have "bike registration papers, driving license, travel passport". It's my bike.
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If you enter Nagorno Karabakh you stand a chance of being black listed from Azerbaijan for life if they found out so bear that in mind for your trip planning
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If you enter Nagorno Karabakh you stand a chance of being black listed from Azerbaijan for life if they found out so bear that in mind for your trip planning
I know.
But I'm not so stupid to do stamp my passport in Nagorno K.
I will do as when I went with the motorcycle in Israel and Syria: stamp on a sheet separate from passport.
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I know.
But I'm not so stupid to do stamp my passport in Nagorno K.
I will do as when I went with the motorcycle in Israel and Syria: stamp on a sheet separate from passport.
Yes just some people have there website links of there trip on stickers on there bikes and photos on the cameras

Its a great route but i think it would be alot better for planning if you did it the other way round going clock wise round not anti clock wise like starting the North West Russian Caucasus

Like start as you plan to finish by heading to Ukraine via Belarus, Hungary, Slovenia & Italy ect ect first

That way you start your Caucasus trip and will enter all the "problem areas" via country's that are fine with you doing it rather than country's that are not fine with it which you return to so you are sure there will be no problems

Even if you are pushed for time when you get to Batumi in Georgia which if you went Clock wise round would be near the end of your trip there is ferry's that goes to Odessa in Ukraine
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Yes just some people have there website links of there trip on stickers on there bikes and photos on the cameras

Its a great route but i think it would be alot better for planning if you did it the other way round going clock wise round not anti clock wise like starting the North West Russian Caucasus

Like start as you plan to finish by heading to Ukraine via Belarus, Hungary, Slovenia & Italy ect ect first

That way you start your Caucasus trip and will enter all the "problem areas" via country's that are fine with you doing it rather than country's that are not fine with it which you return to so you are sure there will be no problems

Even if you are pushed for time when you get to Batumi in Georgia which if you went Clock wise round would be near the end of your trip there is ferry's that goes to Odessa in Ukraine
I thank you for these your suggestions, because, in preparing for a trip like this is not easy, I might forget something, but ...
1) I also have a website (see signature), but in my site will not put some references to my planned shift in Nagorno Karabakh. Later yes (on my return to Italy), but certainly not before (on my return to Italy). Indeed, I will do as my trip to the Middle East: put a map with a FALSE path, which turns from Nagorno Karabakh and I will show this to the Azerbaijani police, then taking them around like I did for the Syrians, which showed a map where I had falsified my path in Israel. Who puts prohibitions so stupid deserves to be made fun of.
2) On my website I have a direct link to my Spot3, indicating, every 5 minutes, my position. Before leaving I'll modify this link to make it unreadable. It will be accessible only to my friends, which I will reveal the correct link. If the Azeris will ask me what is the Spot on my bike, I will say this is only for the SOS.
3) I will use 2 microsd different: one for photos in Nagorno Karabakh, the other for the rest of the trip: even an Azerbaijani officer finds a microSD into a Gold Wing.
4) I understand that you suggest to make the journey in reverse, ie Ukraine-Russia-South Caucasus. It does not seem appropriate, because, entering Abkhazia and Ossetia from Russia (as suggested by other previous post and as it seems to be advisable by the news that I reported), then, if they realize the Georgians, is trouble for me. Also I do not think that the North Caucasus is "simpler Southern" (Dagestan, Chechnya ...).
5) With regard to your suggestion of a ferry boat to Odessa, I do not take a ferry even if they pay me (except where necessary, b.p. to get to the islands as in Japan): It is not my way of traveling ... on a motorcycle. And then, between Odessa and Italy, which path should I do? It would not be a convenient and secure location; and Odessa is not in a quiet area in Ukraine.
6) As regards Ukraine, I repeat the request I made in the first post: I need information on what the border crossings secure between Russia and Ukraine (in the north of Ukraine, on the main route to Kiev).
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Hi, have you done this trip in 2016?

I'm specially interested by crossing border AZ/RUSSIA then driving across Daghestan to Astrakhan.

Thanks for by our reply.

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Yes, I done my trip in Caucasus in June 2016.
No problem in the border from Azerb. to Russia; no problem in Daghestan, no problem in Cecenia (for me).
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Yes, I done my trip in Caucasus in June 2016.
No problem in the border from Azerb. to Russia; no problem in Daghestan, no problem in Cecenia (for me).
So did you make it into South Ossetia from Georgia? Or get a visa from the plenipotentiaries of Abkhazia in the EU?
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I'm specially interested by crossing border AZ/RUSSIA then driving across Daghestan to Astrakhan.
We went from Georgia to Astrakhan in July 2016. No problems at all. In fact North Ossetia, Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan were all quite pleasant. People were friendly and helpful everywhere we went.
There were a lot of police checkpoints along the way, but they seemed to only stop local trucks and busses. They never bothered us.
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Thanks a lot for these quick reply.

I'm happy to know you have crossed Az/RUSSIA, then Daghestan without any problem.
I'm planning to do that trip with my own car spring 2017, I suppose you've done it with your bikes.
Have you made bivouacs or sleep in hôtels.

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With my motorbike, Honda Gold Wing 1500.
I always slept in the hotel.
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Thanks again,

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We wild camped.
So you have options
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