Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Route Planning
Route Planning Where to go, when, what are the interesting places to see
Photo by Hendi Kaf, in Cambodia

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Hendi Kaf,
in Cambodia



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 7 Oct 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
Question Foz do iguacu to Cusco

Hi,

Starting in December a friend and myself are driving from foz do iguacu all the way up to Colombia. For the first leg of the trip im wondering what would be the best route to take. Maybe you can give me some advice.

Option 1:
Route 81 trough Argentina to Salta

Option 2:
Route 16 trough Argentina to Salta

Option 3:
Trough the Chaco via Route 9 and onwards to Uyuny

Option 4:
North trough Brasil via Bonito then on Route 4 trough eastern Bolivia

Thank you for any infos and ride on!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 8 Oct 2019
Snakeboy's Avatar
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
Posts: 1,524
The problem with answering to your post is that «best» could mean a whole lot of different things and if you ask many people about which is their favorite country for travelling, favorite road to ride, favorite music or food you will get about as many different answers as people you ask.
What do you put into «best»? Easiest and most conveniant with smooth roads? Most interesting route (and what are your interests btw?)?

To be honest I havent ridden R16 or R95 of Argentina but I belive both of them goes through a relatively flat scenery and thus maybe not so interesting area. But Salta and northern Argentina when you get closer to the Andes and in general the northwestern area of Argentina is indeed both scenic and interesting.

I have however ridden through Paraguay from Villamontes in Bolivia and I found that route very interesting. Visiting the old Jesuit missions in Paraguay, the main cities of the country and Filadelfia with the mennonites and more and further into Bolivia I think would be a very interesting route. But best? Well - depends on what you consider best... Paraguay will almost always be very hot - so that might be a drawback. And the road through Chacos was not the best when I rode there (potholed and some parts was deep gravel on the Bolivia side)
I have also ridden Brasilia-Campo Grande-Corumba-into Bolivia and used R4 in Bolivia to Santa Cruz and further through Bolivia. Its also certainly a nicesnd interesting route, you can also in lowland Bolivia visit several old Jesuit missions, visit hot springs etc. Be aware that many of the lowland roads in Bolivia are still gravel roads that can and will be impassable at times during the rainy season (Des-April) so that might be a drawback if going that way. R4 in Bolivia is however paved from the border to Santa Cruz and most of the way to Cochabamba or Sucre.
__________________
In the end everything will be fine. If its not fine its not the end....
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 9 Oct 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
Thank you snakeboy. You are right it is very much a matter of personal taste, i should have added more info.

We first wanted to go south to Buenos Aires and then crossing over to the Andes via Rosario/Cordoba/Mendoza. But we only have 4-5 months for the trip up to colombia and this is why im looking into a shorter route.

I prefer an interesting route over smooth surface, the stretch from Iguacu over to the andes seems to be mostly flat and not too many things to see on the way. I'm interested to see beautiful lakes and rivers where i can take a swim. I really prefer hot weather over cold, more so when its raining. Also i dont mind the occasional bustling city.

The trip is not about seeing as many things as possible or putting endless miles on the clock. If there is a place i really like i want to be able to stay there for a few days or a week.

Its probably going to be either option 1 or 2 because i dont want to miss the Salta region. Option 3 trough the chaco is still possible but it would mean backtracking to salta. Its not possible to see Bonito this way but cant do everything.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 16 Oct 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 108
with your preferences i would go through Paraguay or brazil/Bolivia and head afterwards down to Salta /San Salvador de Jujuy and San Pedro. Than Heading through the lagoon route to Uyuni and further to la Paz...

The Routes in northern Argentina are very straight and boring.
Bonito is fits perfect to your description what you like.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 20 Oct 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
Thank you pickypalla. I really would like to see the Bonito region.

I looked a bit more on different maps and it seems possible to enter Paraguay from Porto Murtinho. This route did not show up in google maps, probably because there is no bridge yet and we would need to take a ferry across the rio paraguay. It would be possible to drive up from Iguacu to Bonito and then trough the Chaco(Filadelfia) to Jujuy/Salta. This would only add ~400km to the most direct route.

Then from Salta over the Paso de Sico to San Pedro de Atacama and into Bolivia via the Lagunas Route like pickypalla recommended.

Not sure yet about the way from Uyuni up to la Paz. Maybe trough Potosi, Sucre, Cochabamba and Quime.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 22 Oct 2019
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy View Post
Then from Salta over the Paso de Sico to San Pedro de Atacama and into Bolivia via the Lagunas Route like pickypalla recommended.
Paso Sico i like more than Paso Jama You will see already some really nice lagoons. Check out the dirt way 10-15km after Paso Sico to Vulcan Lascar. Beautiful Scenery, but you would miss Piedras Rojas for which you have to come back or turn around at this point.

Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy View Post
Not sure yet about the way from Uyuni up to la Paz. Maybe trough Potosi, Sucre, Cochabamba and Quime.
The route from Uyuni to Oruro and La Paz isn't that exciting but really good asphalt. One corrupt police station on the way, don't pay if he asks you for toll, only at the toll houses...
If you ride over Potosi the scenery is more exciting.


Best wishes
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 4 Dec 2019
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 6
UPDATE:

Bought the motorcycles 2 weeks ago, we are still in paraguay waiting for the cedula verde.

Last edited by doomy; 13 Jan 2020 at 12:26.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Motorbike for Sale in Cusco (Peru) / middle of november Frank68 Overland Vehicles and Equipment for Sale / Wanted 1 13 Feb 2019 23:43
From Cusco into Brazil in early March?? Tony LEE South America 4 14 Dec 2015 19:22
Best routes from Bolivia to Peru, Cusco to Lima, Lima to Quito TravelBugBlues Route Planning 8 9 May 2014 19:07
Brazil, Foz do Iguaçu - new Bikers Hostel Mervifwdc Sleep and Eat, South America 1 24 May 2013 18:06

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Ecuador June 13-15
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Date TBC
Ecuador: Date TBC
Romania: Date TBC
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 19:38.