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France to Nepal

Hello there!
I'm working on our next trip. We will be 2 or 3 motorbike.
We hope to go to Nepal passing by Kirghiz, China, Tibet, and then, down to India, Pakistan, Iran Turquie and hOme ... We project to ​go in 1 year or more...
The route from France to Torugart Pass in Kyrgyzstan is allready defined.
But from that point till Nepal, it seems to be a bit more complicated and expensive du to the local guide we must pay apparently!?!... ​
It seems that riding on his own motorbike is quite expensive in china? I read that we have to travel with an agency or local guide?
But once crossing the China border, can we​ drive by our own or do we have to ride with the guide to Zhangmu?
And which road? I would like to ride on the KKH from Kashgar... Is it allowed (and safe) to bivouac in Pakistan?
Well well well... still lot of questions, but if some of you have passed through those country and have informations, I would be pleased to read about your trip!

I look forward to read you!
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Tibet

bienvenue sur le Hubb Virginie !
Tiffany has done it ( amongst tons of other trips )
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...to-tibet-57427
Good start: u have the bike & looks in common :-)
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Hi vic!
I have a lot of threads to read here! Thanks for the message and for the link!
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Bienvenue ici virginie,
je te souhaite une bonne prépa.
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The route from France to Torugart Pass in Kyrgyzstan is allready defined.
But from that point till Nepal, it seems to be a bit more complicated and expensive du to the local guide we must pay apparently!?!... ​
Hey Casper,
Can you share the route from France till Kyrgyz?
I am working on India-France this April.
From Zhangmu(China-Nepal border) till Khorgos(China-Kazakh) border crossing is the most expensive part of our trip.

Also, what is the route identified by you from Kyrgyz to Nepal?
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Hey andymaxman!
I would like to ride from France to Moscou, Kazan, then travel to Astana in Kazakh and Go to Zaisan, in Altai Mountains (so beautiful!)!! Then go down the Charyn canyon National Park and finally, Issyk-Kul in Kirghizstan.
Pass in China by Torugart…
First, I thought I could ride on the KKH from Kashgar, Gilgit Islamabad and Lahore (in Pakistan) then ride to Ladakh before enter in Nepal…. and so on…
But as you said, riding in China is a very expensive part of the travel so I’m trying to find an other way to go to Nepal! And also, Pakistan is sometime unsafe…
Maybe from Iran and boat! …
In search of information for the moment...
Are you going to travel through India before Nepal and China?
Cheers!
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Hello handy and casper. I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
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Hello handy and casper. I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
Tiger
Hi andymaxman .
In april in kirgyzstan you can have moody traks and you can have snow.
For the moment we are two bikers for this trip.if you want...
Tiger
Casper of course ... !
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I would like to ride from France to Moscou, Kazan, then travel to Astana in Kazakh and Go to Zaisan, in Altai Mountains (so beautiful!)!! Then go down the Charyn canyon National Park and finally, Issyk-Kul in Kirghizstan.
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I go in april may 2015 to Mongolia kirgyz and after in china to tibet after i would like to take plane with my gsa to return in france. I would like to try other bikers for travel china.
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Hey Casper and Tiger,
I am from India and would be travelling from here till France and so the route query to find an economical way to enter Kazakh or Kyrgyz. At the moment it seems like China is a must. The route via Pakistan and Iran just might not be safe, considering i will be travelling with my wife and kids (7 and 11).

I will be keeping an eye out for what routes you guys eventually decide.


Off-topic - any idea why i do not get mails about new posts to my email id?
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Hello!
I think traveling in Iran is safe, but it's not the case of Pakistan, and the road to Iran is not recommended at the moment apparently!

I have some quote from Chinese agencies, but expensive, so I'm still in search for a an other nice route from france to Nepal and go home!

That's a nice project to travel with your family andymaxman!
Where do you live in India?

By the way, do you know any ship company to cross from Mumbai to Dubai?

ps: no idea about mails! I don't either receive them!
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Where do you live in India?
By the way, do you know any ship company to cross from Mumbai to Dubai?
I live in Bangalore.

Try reaching these guys - Logistics Services, Air & Sea Freight Forwarders, Shipping, DUBAI ABU DHABI, U.A.E
They helped an expedition vehicle return back to India from London.

If you find luck and response from them, let me know, so i can reach out as well.
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Hello!
Great! I'll try to contact them as soon as possible!
I have also a number to contact for a crossing from Dubai to Mumbay for vehicle and passangers! But this is not a regular crossing, I have to call them for details
I'll let you know!
In this case, your route to France will pass through U.A.E, Iran and Turkey and so on! It will be another voyage!

Anyway, I'm still searching a solution to ride into China and pass in Nepal and India!
To be continued!
Cheers!
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Good evening Casper Andymaxman,

Sorry for my late answer , It's a great adventure through these countries with your family.
We met a family of french who have made ​​this trip in 2013 here is their link travel. Les Simpsons en vadrouille !

For my part, I have to revisit this trip will be in 2016, because we are two for this year. i will open another post for not occupy this one of Virginie .
I will motivate several bikers on this trip in 2016, Casper keeps that in mind who knows ...
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Bonsoir a tous, et bienvenue.

Looks like a very well planned and exciting trip.

For information about China you need to contact Walter Colebatch on the HUBB, as he has significant experience in that part of the world. I believe it`s not that easy to ride a motorcycle into China.

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Jhon? (i'm thierry Floreck ) Thank's for your message For May 2015 i think that cross china DURING 2200 km aim agency want 2800 euros for that (crazy !!) (to kirguiz/Bulgan) I touch Walter Colebatch.. This year i will made ​​an antother trip, I will go to Georgia, Armenia, Iran, Turkmenistan and After in ride again on the Pamir Highway, Kyrgyzstan to go to Mongolia. i work my RB. Casper So, Vic, if you want !! Tiger
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