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Fuel!

Hello i am going to be traveling from the UK to Gibraltar and will be traveling through France and Spain and i want to know if any of you guys can help me what what regular unleaded petrol is called in these countries?

thanks guys and have a merry Cristmas and safe riding

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Hi there.I think it is called "sans ploms" in in those countries.
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Is the green color of the fuel pomps the standard color in Europe??
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From here Petrol Fuel Only Sticker
They're durable too.

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read this page, it contains every possible option of international translations world wide, for any kind of fuel, even for stoves... very good an complete source.

International fuel names for backpacking stoves

contains a lot of corrections of international folks who keep it alive and to make sure that the more odd fuel names are written right. It may sounds like it would be for stows only, but vehicle fuel translations are well sorted too.

another very good translation link about vehicle related technical stuff in case you need to tell a local mechanic what bike part needs repair.
translating:
English-German-French-Italian-Spanish like:
Deutsch English Francais Italiano Español
Batterie battery,accumulator accumulateur batteria bateria
Lager bearing roulement cuscinetto cojinete
http://www.ta-deti.de/ta/english.html
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I think in most of Europe you can only get unleaded.
In France it is called "Sans Plomb"

the green pump are usually 95 octane and teh red one 98 but both are unleadeds.

WARNING. They have started to use a slightly different green 95 octane mix called somehing like GPL10 This has 10% alchohol in it. I have found you get about 20% less mpg when using it.

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WARNING. They have started to use a slightly different green 95 octane mix called somehing like GPL10 This has 10% alchohol in it. I have found you get about 20% less mpg when using it.
It's called E10 - Ethanol 10%. Its cheaper than the standard "sans plomb" Only seen it in the supermarkets so far and then only in 1 or 2 pumps out of 10.
I dont know if it will give you less mpg or km/litre but it will feck with your tank if its plastic/fibreglass... Don't use it. Do a search and see all the problems associated with the stuff!

Its also a nonsense to be using crops to make fuel, much in the same way that "bio" diesel is. Its just politics.
There aint enough arable land in the world to support 1% of the vehicles in the world using it.

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Nozzle

Also look at the nozzle width, that is standard in Europe where colours are not, just look at sainsbury's, they use different colours to tesco!
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98 and 95 are both green I thought?

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as you may expect, there is a big discussion in Germany mad car country about E10 fuel.. so who wonders there is a fuel-mad fraction compiling the most accurate list published by ADAC and DAT of vehicles who are capable of using E10-fuel. The actual list can be downloaded here:
http://www.dat.de/e10liste/e10vertraeglichkeit.pdf
it contains mainly cars, but BMW, Honda, Kawasaki, Triumph and Yamaha from 1990 upwards as well... has a good and long list sorted by VIN-no. and models. To put your mind as rest most bikes above 500cc have no problems using E10 fuel.. regarding the list... well the list is published in German, but it's easy to read out your bike.

hope that helps..

anyway my 2-pennies...
regarding E10 production consumes crops in figures, in form of 1.8 million bread per year for Germany alone, I would not use it anyway... but by 2013 we may all get forced by our "beloved" governments to use it anyway.... or may even before regarding the oil industries wanting to stop selling our "standard Super 95 octane" for greed, to be able make space for the new E10.... well keep in mind the today's 98 octane contains E5 already... so I will call it E5-95...
to make it clear E10 fuel cost more than E5-95 to produce, the ecology effect is in doubt, E10 will be forced to the market, to be a successful competitor for E5-95 and to make folks to buy the shit, the price will rice for E5-95... in the end E5-95 will vanish like 92 did already....

the alternative would be to use "Super+ 98 octane" fuel, which is so much more expensive... the greedy factor is included so what ever you pore in to your bike it will cost you and makes any journey a even bigger pain.
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