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How to calculate expected cost?
Hi,
How do you guys (and girls) work out how much your forthcoming adventure will cost?
Some of the things are fairly simple to work out like cost of -
Visas
Fuel
Vehicle
But for things like maintenance on the road, accommodation, fines (inc special gifts for policemen etc), food/drinks.
I'm looking to do a 60 day drive from Dubai to Mongolia and back, so not much time to spend sight seeing, pretty much everyday will be driving. Or maybe it is possible to sell my vehicle in Mongolia and fly back, haven't thought of that until this moment.
I'm trying to write down all my costs in a spreadsheet so I can work out how much I need to buy before I leave and how much I should have available to me during the trip.
Do you have any advice of how to plan or a general figure for central Asian countries like does 50USD get you somewhere to sleep and a couple of meals per day or not.
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Got to admit that any overland travel I have done I just take as much money as I have.....I either spend it or I don't. You can get a rough idea of costs like visas and maybe fuel, but for me that's too much planning and in my personal opinion it takes the fun out of it....then again I maybe too laid back for some.
Most of my time goes into vehicle preperation...that's what floats my boat. I find reading other blogs of great interest and have saved posts on this site from people like Fabian who is travelling down the west coast of Africa and includes great visa info...this I will look at when I need it.
Sorry...I've not been much help...
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I think when I've gone overseas I've sometimes used backpacker guides such as Lonely Planet or Let's Go to get a very, very rough idea of what daily costs for rooms and food will be.
Usually you can google info about things such as fuel costs, visa and other paperwork costs, etc.
And of course there are various traveller forums, motorcycling or otherwise.
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I usually do a rough calculation, then I multiply with 2 and that usally does the trick. Be sure to have something on a available savings account as well....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snakeboy
I usually do a rough calculation, then I multiply with 2 and that usally does the trick. Be sure to have something on a available savings account as well....
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Multiply times 2?
Ouch...
I worked out 150USD per day inc fuel should be fine, so 9,000USD over the 2 month journey. I won't be able to have the extra money.
20,000km - 60 days - sleeping in hotel/hostel/motel 80% of the time, only camping in Mongolia.
What do you think realistically I should have available cash?
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Out of curiosity (not ready to go on a big trip yet), last year I created spreadsheet that vaguely calculated a big trip & then asked a similar question on another forum. I was a bit shocked that £150 per day was the average response! I expected a lot less. So your $150 may be about right. However, it does depend on the type of bike you take & your own personal preferences of eating / drinking / sleeping etc.
Remember to set aside a lump sum for emergencies too.
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i would love to know what the hell people are doing to spend $150 a day. i have done a few big trips and by the end of the trip i am at about 30 pound a day averaged out inc things like tyres oil changes ect
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$150?? Are these people staying in the Hotel Ritz every night?
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I revisited my old thread & found this stuff which may be useful to you:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...rtw-trip-73070
World prices, compare holiday prices, cost of living | MyTravelCost.com
http://www.rac.co.uk/RAC/files/b9/b9...85292283a2.pdf
and these comments from others:
"Chris Scott gives some budget info in the Adventure Motorcycling Handbook: £3500 to cross Africa, Europe to India for £2500, rtw budget £10,000. He qualifies this by saying you could spend more, could spend less."
"Cost me about £8k for Sydney to London, that included bike, carnet, shipping Darwin to East Timor, air freight over Burma, and a week through China. Budgeted £10 a day on the road. Nine months on the road."
"I think we spent about £4000 before we left the Uk on insurance ' visa's and all our Jabs and servicing my bike to make it RTW ready."
"£500 per week will take care of virtually most things you will ever encounter as you cross the world... it depends on shipping costs and a whole load of other factors, that's why nobody can accurately predict somebody else's costs."
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Hi there, Phoenix. Just wondering how long your trip took?
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I too have seen figures banded about such as £10-14,000 per year.
There are just too many variables....drink water or ?? (although I have been places where is cheaper than water) cook or eat out?? Hotel or tent?? Drive fast use more fuel , drive slow save fuel etc etc. I like the idea of coming up with a figure and doubling it..
Some days I eat cold beans from a can and other days I have a slap up meal with s...it all depends where I am and who I'm with....just have fun doing it...as the old cliche says...it's about the journey, not the destination. So, if your out of money get inventive or turn around and head for home. Next time you will get there with the info you have found out about yourself and the way you travel.
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Hi there, Phoenix. Just wondering how long your trip took?
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What trip?
Regarding my above posts, at the time, I was adding up an idea to see how long money would stretch for. My trip involves going and not coming back
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pheonix
Out of curiosity (not ready to go on a big trip yet), last year I created spreadsheet that vaguely calculated a big trip & then asked a similar question on another forum. I was a bit shocked that £150 per day was the average response! I expected a lot less. So your $150 may be about right. However, it does depend on the type of bike you take & your own personal preferences of eating / drinking / sleeping etc.
Remember to set aside a lump sum for emergencies too.
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Well, it is a 4x4 not a bike, so fuel will be a lot more.
I don't especially want to camp unless is it remote and scenic, I don't mind to stay in crap hotels or guest houses. Not especially bothered about drinking and I'd mostly like to eat in small restaurants.
I did forget to mention that there will be two of us which pushes up the cost.
Thanks for the replies everyone, very helpful and interesting.
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Well, it is a 4x4 not a bike, so fuel will be a lot more.
I don't especially want to camp unless is it remote and scenic, I don't mind to stay in crap hotels or guest houses. Not especially bothered about drinking and I'd mostly like to eat in small restaurants.
I did forget to mention that there will be two of us which pushes up the cost.
Thanks for the replies everyone, very helpful and interesting.
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I think when you see how bad a bad motel can be you may change your perspective on not wanting to camp unless it is 'scenic'.
If your not going to camp, and don't want to sleep in crowded, noisy and often unfindable/non-existent hotels, you may factor in some serious accomodation money!!
Generally the less developed and poorer a country is the more expensive the'nice' hotels are, many years ago in Poland I was quoted 150USD a night for some kind of a travel lodge type affair in Krakow (I mean in the mid 90's), at a time when about 10USD was a lot of money.
This is because they base their prices upon what 3 categories of people will pay
(1) NGO's (famously lavish with your charitable donations)
(2) People on business accounts (again money no object)
(3) The political/mafia elite of whatever country you are in.
If there are virtually no tourists, prices are not based on value because there is no competition from all the other hotels on the strip.
Even today in Europe in places like Podgorica in Montenegro (the capital) that are not tourist destinations there basically are flop houses and high rate business hotels. Pristina (Kosovo) is another good example because it still is chock full of NGO parasites 'helping' people.
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150$ a day is maddness,id get by easily on 50$ a day
totally depends on how much your willing to rough it out
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