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Ireland to Australia
Hi Everyone,
I have been stalking this community for the last year while I build up information on what route myself and SO will take to get to Australia.
Below is the anticipated route. Going 2 up on a DL1000.
Please any comments would be gratefully appreciated.
1. Ireland (Home)
2. France
3. Italy
4. Slovenia
5. Croatia.
6. Montenegro
7. Albania
8. Greece
9. Turkey
10. Iran - Carnet Required
11. Turkmenistan - Tough to get Visa i know
12. Uzbekistan
13. Tajikistan
14. Kyrgyzstan
15. China - Local Tour Guide Required (https://www.roadpioneer.com/tour/6325/)
16. Laos
17. Vietnam
18. Cambodia
19. Thailand - Local Tour Guide Required
20. Malaysia - Carnet Required
21. Indonesia
22. Timor Leste
23. Australia - Carnet Required
Looking for people who have done similar trip. Possibly even people who could join us! (...and split the bill of china / thai tour guide).
Planning on getting to the Stans Late August to avoid worst of weather. China for month of September, South East Asia for October
All feedback welcome including calling me an idiot.
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Have a good look at Travellers Stories to read more about people's experiences. Also check out Destinations for places to see on the way.
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Tour guide and permits required for Vietnam too Im afraid.
For Thailand the guide and permits thing werent very strict enforced before the Covid pandemic, but who knows what its gonna be like after the pandemic...?
Carnet required for Indonesia too 100 % sure. And also for East Timor (at least it seemed so when I passed through there in 2015) But you already have a Carnet arranged for the other countries so it shouldnt be a problem.
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You didn't say when you were planning this route (2021?). Assuming we are post-Covid, we're planning a similar route, 2-up on a 700 Tenere, but may be 2022 before we leave Europe, as we're planning to spend the last half of 2021 in and around Europe (shipping into Dublin). Will definitely be following this thread to see what other tips turn up.
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30 Nov 2020
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If you are planning for 2021: I am currently putting a group together to cross through China in September from Kyrgyzstan to Laos.
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30 Nov 2020
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Snakeboy - We are willing to go with tour guides if required but obviously prefer to be without them. Hopefully Thailand is still lax with the tour guide thing. If not im sure we will meet others such as ouroboros2015 to join us!
As for the Carnet - at least the single Carnet will cover all of the countries. Bit worried about arrival in Australia however. We plan on staying in Oz for a year on a Working holiday visa. Not sure how to get the Carnet reimbursed if we plan on registering the bikes in Oz... Will need to look into it a bit more.
Dates - Planning on leaving Ireland early June 21. 50 days in Europe. 40 days going through Turkey, Iran and the Stans. Doing China in September. That link that i had posted for Roadpioneers had a 30 day tour for Kyrgyzstan - China - Laos. then south east Asia for a month and a half. Entering Australia mid November.
We are currently nailing down route/what roads but we are building in flexibility where we can. The above
StaleFish & ouroboros2015 - we would be delighted to meet up with any other travellers if possible! September is exactly when we planned to cross china.
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@ Grant Johnson - If it wasnt for this site i would be lost! And agreed - been told that i'm mad multiple times. But it just increases the desire to explore!
Wasn't sure if it was possible to do 2-up until I read you and Susan account of going 2-up. Much appreciated
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Patrickneedsfood:
Iran, as I remember, requires guide if you are from uk.
As danish, I cant ask for a visa, by myself, only by a certificated Company
Vietnam; its not easy to bring your mc in .
I was lucky, at the southernmost border, from Cambodia, veeery early in the morning.
Laos - Cambodia border , almost imposible, but not the other way.
Thai guide: bordercrossin at South ( from pakxe) not need a guide, before corvid.
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Patrickneedsfood:
Iran, as I remember, requires guide if you are from uk.
As danish, I cant ask for a visa, by myself, only by a certificated Company
Vietnam; its not easy to bring your mc in .
I was lucky, at the southernmost border, from Cambodia, veeery early in the morning.
Laos - Cambodia border , almost imposible, but not the other way.
Thai guide: bordercrossin at South ( from pakxe) not need a guide, before corvid.
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TS is irish, not from the UK...  
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Snakeboy - I have read many of your posts on other peoples threads as well so greatly appreciate your feedback. Definitely will look into staying longer than 1.5 months if possible. We were limiting ourselves to get to Australia before it gets too hot there but maybe it is a good idea to arrive after the summer in Oz.
We have put a lot of research into Europe and the Stans but are only now concentrating on SE Asia. I will post up the exact route for review.
ouroboros2015 - Ideally we would like to be in a group and our times match but we are worried about having altitude sickness. Prefer not to risk it.
Pan - as snakeboy said, Iran is a lot stricter with Visa's from UK but im not from UK! For Iran there are:
Tourist Visa - best option.
Visa on Arrival: only available at airports.
Transit Visa - only gives 5 - 7 days in Iran.
Carnet obviously required as well...
But all advice welcome!
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Patrickneedsfood. No worries; if our paths cross on the road, I'll buy you a . Cheers.
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We were limiting ourselves to get to Australia before it gets too hot there but maybe it is a good idea to arrive after the summer in Oz.
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Winter time is when you do the top end (Aussie winter) you are planning to arrive smack bang in the middle of summer & like somebody said its monsoon season (or as the locals call it) "The Wet" stinking hot 100% humidity & its also cyclone season (wetter than wet) not forgetting the mozzie`s.
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Originally Posted by patrickneedsfood
Hi Everyone,
I have been stalking this community for the last year while I build up information on what route myself and SO will take to get to Australia.
Below is the anticipated route. Going 2 up on a DL1000.
Please any comments would be gratefully appreciated.
1. Ireland (Home)
2. France
3. Italy
4. Slovenia
5. Croatia.
6. Montenegro
7. Albania
8. Greece
9. Turkey
10. Iran - Carnet Required
11. Turkmenistan - Tough to get Visa i know
12. Uzbekistan
13. Tajikistan
14. Kyrgyzstan
15. China - Local Tour Guide Required (https://www.roadpioneer.com/tour/6325/)
16. Laos
17. Vietnam
18. Cambodia
19. Thailand - Local Tour Guide Required
20. Malaysia - Carnet Required
21. Indonesia
22. Timor Leste
23. Australia - Carnet Required
Looking for people who have done similar trip. Possibly even people who could join us! (...and split the bill of china / thai tour guide).
Planning on getting to the Stans Late August to avoid worst of weather. China for month of September, South East Asia for October
All feedback welcome including calling me an idiot.
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You are most certainly not an idiot. Good luck.
Believe it or not, in 2016 I rode a similar route on a bicycle, I'm from Northern Ireland so have a British and an Irish passport which is the best combination to do this route in my opinion. Iranian visa not an issue and 90-day Chinese visa without a question asked.
I am actually looking at the possibility of something similar again by motorcycle, with my Dad, and your timing looks good to me. I'm really keen to follow along with your planning but am new to actually using Horizons unlimited so I may miss a lot of your posts.
Stay in touch!
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Darwin in November - December
Hey
Darwin in December it is usually around 34deg C during the day, down to a superb 24deg during the evening.
Will most likely rain each afternoon.
Will be about 80 - 99% humidity.
November is a bit cooler.
The month or so before Nov is called the build up for the wet. Darwinites start to go crazy around that time.
Have fun
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