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Photo by Alessio Corradini, on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia, of two locals

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Here's a challenge for you

Well I think when it comes to where mainland Europe starts and ends on its Eastern side, you cant go past the russians. Afer all, the Europe Asia border in the Urals is on Russian soil, so their take on it is therefore definitive.

The watershed of the urals runs roughly north - south for most of its length, but turns notably to the east up in the far North. The coal mining / gulag city of Vorkuta (up in the deep North) at 64 degrees East is well to East of Ekaterinburg and Chelyabinsk (both around 60-61 degrees East).

And Vorkuta is in European Russia. I have no doubt there are villages further East once you get to Vorkuta. Anyone wanting to go as far east in Europe as possible will have to head up to Vorkuta (no cheating on the train) and then take what ever mud trails to whatever more easterly villages you can.

Someone with nothing else to do this summer should head off now, and check it out!

But take a mud bike

** Note the part of Kazakhstan that is within Europe is the part to the north and west of the Ural river ... The city of Uralsk lies on that Europe / Asia border, and is only 51 degrees East

By means of illustration: http://www.thingsforlearning.com/pro.../7925-4504.jpg

It looks like the most Easterly point in mainland Europe is about 66 degrees East.

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If you're going to the four corners you really ought to go to the middle as well!
The official centre of Europe, as defined by the French National Geograpic Institute, is 25km north of Vilnius (Lithuania) on the road to Utena.
There is a small centre there where you can buy postcards etc. and get an official Centre of Europe stamp in your diary. How can you resist?!
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Has to be in Turkey,
Istanbul,
The middle of the bridge called Bogazici. or Bospur Bridge.

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While your there can I suggest you take the ferry from Istanbul down the Bosporus Strait to almost the Black sea.

Istanbul: City tours by ferry - Telegraph

If you've only a couple of days to spend on the water in Istanbul, then the excursion up the Bosporus or a trip to the Princes' Islands are the two essential boat-journeys to take. For me the Straits of Bospurus was the best. This offers the unforgettable experience of zig-zagging between two continents to view the city's waterfront suburbs and settlements. Istanbul life is relaxing on the boats.
The mighty Bosporus strait runs 32km between the Sea of Marmara and the Black Sea, separating the European and Asian shores of Istanbul. It's steeped in myth and legend.

Fantastic fish lunch at the last stop.

Great day out.

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Defining the limits of something that doesn t exist is impossible...

You defined Ireliand as the westernmost point...but in June Irish clearly expressed their doubt about their european identity...people living in Iceland are vikings like in Scandinavia, shouldnt it make of Iceland a part of Europe..what about the european islands all over the world in the pacific ocean or the caraibs...

If you define Europe as a continental entity, then once again why do you define Ireland, an island, as the westernmost point of Europe?

Russia extends to the north pole, russians have been involved in european history for thousands of years, should it be regarded as european...

Defining Europe is just impossible, because there are so many interpretations of it.
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Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
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Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
Isnt that a bit like saying the most northerly point of Europe is Stockholm, cause anywhere north of there is sh1t hole?
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Isnt that a bit like saying the most northerly point of Europe is Stockholm, cause anywhere north of there is sh1t hole?
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Depends on how much crap you want to take, as regards a sh1t hole of a place.
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Smile No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?

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Well if I was going to the most easterly place, and it was in the middle of no where, ie, A sh1t hole, I think I would choose a good easterly position.
Like Istanbul.

Thats East enough for me.
Well, Istanbul (as well as Stockholm - good one colebatch) may be 'good' but they are not 'The positions'. In my opinion it's a compromise, just like 'I'll take my riding gear, hop on a plane and do to the North Cap :-)

No crap and sh1t holes - no real riding vs life experience, don't you think?
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Southern Point

Sorry my friend but the southern point in europe IS the island GAVDOS.
I am from Crete - greece, and i know better the place!!!
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Hi,

Having been to Tarifa a few times, windsurfing, I was quite happy it was the most Southern "Mainland" European point...

Until, I lines it up on my map and went right. I reckon Turkey, may hold the most Southern point, have a look at this somewhere round Cabala.


Looks like I need to be off again!

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That part of Turkey is not Europe ... European Turkey stops at the Dardanelles / Bosphorus ... the European part is the 3% of Turkey west of Istanbul.

The rest of Turkey, the other 97%, is Asia.
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That part of Turkey is not Europe ... European Turkey stops at the Dardanelles / Bosphorus ... the European part is the 3% of Turkey west of Istanbul.

The rest of Turkey, the other 97%, is Asia.
Oh, did not realise that at least I can still say I have been to the Southern most point!
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The most southern part of continental Europe they is the cape tainaro in Peloponnisos in Greese There at the Greek mythology they was the entry in the under world
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