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You really must study the maps , google, the earth view is good enough.
90 % of route 40 is paved on way to el Calafate, and the gravel (ripio ) around the Cachi area (nice) is not bad.
Don't go down route 3, you could return on route 3 but I would suggest going slowly down the 40 and only returning on route 3 is you are short of time..or if you like penguins, whales (only till november, they swim off in summer) sea elephants, guanacos, ostiches, vultures and such.
its just that the 40 and surrounding roads are much nicer than the 3, which is windswept and quite monotonous.
you are correct, 3 is all paved
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Thanks for that ... Ill try Google Earth. Maybe its better quality images for Argentina ... but I haven't had good luck being able to identify paved roads in Bolivia with it.
Thanks again.
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You really must study the maps , google, the earth view is good enough.
90 % of route 40 is paved on way to el Calafate, and the gravel (ripio ) around the Cachi area (nice) is not bad.
Don't go down route 3, you could return on route 3 but I would suggest going slowly down the 40 and only returning on route 3 is you are short of time..or if you like penguins, whales (only till november, they swim off in summer) sea elephants, guanacos, ostiches, vultures and such.
its just that the 40 and surrounding roads are much nicer than the 3, which is windswept and quite monotonous.
you are correct, 3 is all paved
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You really must study the maps , google, the earth view is good enough.
90 % of route 40 is paved on way to el Calafate, and the gravel (ripio ) around the Cachi area (nice) is not bad.
Don't go down route 3, you could return on route 3 but I would suggest going slowly down the 40 and only returning on route 3 is you are short of time..or if you like penguins, whales (only till november, they swim off in summer) sea elephants, guanacos, ostiches, vultures and such.
its just that the 40 and surrounding roads are much nicer than the 3, which is windswept and quite monotonous.
you are correct, 3 is all paved
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From what Im seeing on Google Earth (the pictures people post along the way) it looks more like Ruta 40 is about 50% paved between Salta and El Calafate. The whole stretch from Jose de San Martin to Tres Lagos (about 900 km) appears to be all ripio, for example. Maybe the pictures Im seeing are old? Have the southern parts of Ruta 40 been paved recently?
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yes, most of south is paved OR there is a paved alternative. route 25 is a nice alternative to change sides...
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I think I see what youre suggesting now. Jump over to ruta 3 (via 25) to avoid the ripio after Jose de San Martin. That puts me on pavement nearly all the way
The jump over to ruta 3 via 26 seems a lot shorter, but looks like about 500 km of ripio ... that wouldn't be bad.
one reason I want pavement is that Im going in the rainy season. Do the ripio roads hold up well in the rain?
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yes, most of south is paved OR there is a paved alternative. route 25 is a nice alternative to change sides...
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GR, there is NO ripio down to el calafate that you can't avoid. BUT the little there is ( eg close to LONDRES about 50kms) is easy; and the road is worth it.
At San Blas go to Tinogasta and on to paso San Francisco....and back, sleep at Cortaderas. (you'll thank me for that one)
Forget the ripio..and buy a map at the first news agent in argentina, eg Firestone; because the maps you are using must be really old or lacking detail
route 25 and 26 are across country roads to use if you happen to want to accros country. 25 is nice, 26 uglyish
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gotcha. your advice and patience much appreciated!
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GR, there is NO ripio down to el calafate that you can't avoid. BUT the little there is ( eg close to LONDRES about 50kms) is easy; and the road is worth it.
At San Blas go to Tinogasta and on to paso San Francisco....and back, sleep at Cortaderas. (you'll thank me for that one)
Forget the ripio..and buy a map at the first news agent in argentina, eg Firestone; because the maps you are using must be really old or lacking detail
route 25 and 26 are across country roads to use if you happen to want to accros country. 25 is nice, 26 uglyish
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Thanks for the info as I am doing the route on an even bigger bike, 2003 Victory TC. I can do dirt, but would rather not. It's getting hard to pick this thing up/
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