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I think the Singapore / Malay border is open to locals only, not for 3rd country nationals at this point. Malaysia is also closed to (most) non nationals (my wife is Malay and they won't let me in). This will hopefully change sooner rather than later; when are you planning to set off? As snakeboy said, these countries are beginning to open up, but only for arrivals by plane at this stage. I am currently in Cambodia and plan to go to Thailand in a few weeks; the required paperwork is a real ball ache!
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Is India even open to non-Indian arrivals by land?
As of three weeks ago, India was only issuing tourist visas for air arrivals, and only for 30 days from the time of issue (not arrival), non-extendable.

Source of info, Consulate General of India, Perth, Western Aus, 13 Jan 2022.
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Is India even open to non-Indian arrivals by land?
As of three weeks ago, India was only issuing tourist visas for air arrivals, and only for 30 days from the time of issue (not arrival), non-extendable.

Source of info, Consulate General of India, Perth, Western Aus, 13 Jan 2022.
Yes,I heard that. That one is also not ideal, but if we are shipping, then we can just arrive at an e-visa port like Mumbai, and hustle to get out of the country within 30 days. The visa is online, so I think it shouldn't be overly complicated to do in another country then fly over once it is approved. Hopefully they will go back to issuing traditional visas in the next 4 months, but if not, the limitations become part of the adventure.
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I have just read that Malaysia may open their borders on 1st March without quarantine. Given they were planning to open land borders to Thailand in December, this could be good news for Overland routes, but everything is a bit vague for now.
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I have just read that Malaysia may open their borders on 1st March without quarantine. Given they were planning to open land borders to Thailand in December, this could be good news for Overland routes, but everything is a bit vague for now.
This is a recommendation from the NRC only and has no weight. It is HIGHLY unlikely land borders will open in March. Frankly, your best option in getting out of Australia without incurring multiple shipping costs is probably to go to Mumbai directly. Dont hold your breath on India reopening Wagah anytime soon if you seek to go further afield. Burma will be closed for years and china will lockdown harder after the Olympics.

The VTL operating between Msia and Singapore does not apply to tourists. You only option would be the Langkawi travel bubble at this time but then you are only succeeding in being stuck in Malaysia.
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I think 'SE Asia reopening' is a little optimistic from an overland point of view. Living in the region, Omicron is currently in full swing and it's anybody's guess when things will open after that.

Even if you get to India, you'll currently only get a 30 day tourist visa (unless you have the means to get a different type of visa) and cannot exit to Pakistan.

If, as your signature line suggests, you are planning a RTW trip from Australia, maybe it's time to think about going east instead of west. Hopefully in a year or two India and SE Asia are (partly) re-open.

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I think 'SE Asia reopening' is a little optimistic from an overland point of view. Living in the region, Omicron is currently in full swing and it's anybody's guess when things will open after that.

Even if you get to India, you'll currently only get a 30 day tourist visa (unless you have the means to get a different type of visa) and cannot exit to Pakistan.

If, as your signature line suggests, you are planning a RTW trip from Australia, maybe it's time to think about going east instead of west. Hopefully in a year or two India and SE Asia are (partly) re-open.

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Thanks for your thoughts.We would always plan to do the Asia route first and then consider a stage 2 once we get to Europe.

Wondering how you get the sense that SEA will take a year to partly reopen? Possibly, you just mean China and Myanmar, which I agree and that's why we're thinking of crating from Thailand.

As for the other countries, I think it should be OK in a couple of months. Based on news from Indonesia, they will drop all quarantine in 2 weeks and allow VOA on Bali. Given they already have Motain border open with quarantine facilities in Timor, it seems the crossing is already possible as long as they approve your visa (which should get easier as VOA is possible elsewhere).

For Malaysia, they are looking like they will give their timings any day now. Apparently they have the dates in mind, they just wait to announce. They have also discussed with Thailand last week the land borders.

For me, it all looks positive. Even India have been speaking of thawing relations on the Pakistan border. But perhaps I'm being overly optimistic - I do read every piece of news eagerly for updates.
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I am planning to come the other way and reading this it sounds like shipping the bike from the Indian sub-continent straight to Australia might be the most feasible option.

I am still hopeful that Wahga border will open later this year.

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I think the Singapore / Malay border is open to locals only, not for 3rd country nationals at this point. Malaysia is also closed to (most) non nationals (my wife is Malay and they won't let me in). This will hopefully change sooner rather than later; when are you planning to set off? As snakeboy said, these countries are beginning to open up, but only for arrivals by plane at this stage. I am currently in Cambodia and plan to go to Thailand in a few weeks; the required paperwork is a real ball ache!
Ah I hadn't realised it was only for Nationals, but that makes sense as it seems to be a pretty limited crossing anyway. I think it is the fact that they are opening land borders at all that gives some hope. We hope to be able to cross into Indonesia in June and Malaysia in July, but we will have to see how the next few months unfold.

I hope you can get to visit your wife sometime soon!
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