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Keith, China did stop needeing guides however later last year? All over HU some er idiots, decided to ignore the china goverment and did there own thing, needless yo say China where not happy teddys.
Aftrr that they tighened up there act.
Yes Iran also now have to have guides although Lois Pryce got in twice with out requiring guides then they changed it.
Nam my understanding was no allowing Any non nam vehicles, and bikes no bigger than 125 unless nam elite.
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Been looking into the routes more, there's two choices I see.
1.via china, our quote for china is £3200 per person based in 4 sharing. This includes everything and from a company called RideChina ( China Motorcycle Tours,Rentals and self drive tours-Ride China). Which is £1000 more than my bike
2.via Burma, 10 days £1380 entering from India, exiting into Thailand. I know this is more expensive per day but it's also overall cheaper.
As Turky and Iran are now very difficult to enter is there a route from the stans and into India where we don't need a guide?
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It's good to see your persistence Will. There's always a way through, or around the problem .. always.
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Ha thanks Keith,
I'm now thinking to go thought the stanz (sadly avoiding Iran due to it being difficult and not 100%) and down the KKH (5days with Chinese guide) trough Pakistan and onto India. Then Burma and Thailand.
This way it keeps guided yours down and in so keeps the coat of the trip down. Plus it takes in more countries I really want to visit.
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Will, that's it .. perfect!
Get your timing right though, as the KKH isn't open all year 'round.
Think too about other high passes - for instance, around the Himalayas - that are great to ride, but are snowed-in during the winter months. Also be mindful of attempting to cross remote Asian terrain during the rainy seasons.
But you're definitely heading in the right direction. Go for it.
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Is there a ferry across the Caspian sea at all? Maybe Azerbaijan to Turkmenistan?
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Is there a ferry across the Caspian sea at all? Maybe Azerbaijan to Turkmenistan?
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Yes. A good source of Caspian Sea ferry info can be found HERE.
In fact, caravanistan.com provides very useful information covering loads of aspects of the Stans.
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