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Wadi Halfa to Khartoum
Hi,
Why is Wadi Halfa to Khartoum preferred route being this?
1) Wadi Halfa -> Akasha -> Dongola -> Karami -> Atbara -> Shendi -> Khartoum.
When :
2) Wadi Halfa -> Abu Hamad -> Dagash -> Berber -> Shendi -> Khartoum is much shorter?
Has anyone here done the second route? I've been googling been can't find someone doing the 2nd route. Is there something I should know?
Thank you for your kind input.
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Well another common route which we will be taking is as your "1" but at Abu Dom we just keep heading south across to Khartoum; so not sticking all along the Nile the whole way. This is then pretty much the same distance as the eastern route along the railway.
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Yes, that's quite sensible, Bossies. About 2/3 the distance of (1) from Abu Dom to Khartoum. Maybe I should do that too even it means missing out Atbara, point where the 2 rivers (Nile and river Atbara) meet.
But Abu Dom to Khartoum is +/- 350km though; and no towns in between? Quite a no man's land.
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Your route No 1 follows the Nile, which was more villages, water and some fuel, whereas route no 2 follows the train tracks, which has no fuel and limited water (although is shorter). There are a number of posts on this in the last few years in the sub saharan section.
Cant really comment on route 2 as haven't done it, but route 1 was one of my highlights of North Africa and is definately worth doing.
The 350kms from Abu Dom to Khartoum is tar and can be done in a morning.
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Originally Posted by Matt Roach
Your route No 1 follows the Nile, which was more villages, water and some fuel, whereas route no 2 follows the train tracks, which has no fuel and limited water (although is shorter). There are a number of posts on this in the last few years in the sub saharan section.
Cant really comment on route 2 as haven't done it, but route 1 was one of my highlights of North Africa and is definately worth doing.
The 350kms from Abu Dom to Khartoum is tar and can be done in a morning.
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Thanks Matt!
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Really interesting set of posts! If you took route 2 and so took the 350km off the route south what is the time saving on the journey? Is either route an easier ride in terms of ground conditions? Just looking at the coment re fuel, or more to the point, no fuel on route 2 this could well be a limiting factor I guess?
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Just looking at the coment re fuel, or more to the point, no fuel on route 2 this could well be a limiting factor I guess?
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This is exactly my contention. 350km and no fuel/towns in between means one would have to carry extra fuel and lots of water.
But as Matt mentioned "The 350kms from Abu Dom to Khartoum is tar and can be done in a morning."; I guess it doesn't look as grueling as it seems. (err.. or is it doesn't seem grueling as it looks?)
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The road from Abu Dom to Khartoum is newly built and good condition.
there is also a new road from Dongola to Karima. This is the route we took, then drove to Abu Dom and down to Khartoum. Good quality roads all the way.
The road up from Dongola is still being built. Some sections of tarmac are open and being used. The poor sections of this road are still abysmal, but the road is under construction and this will improve things immeasurably (assuming you want to whip along the roads at high speed).
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From Wadi Halfo to Khartoum
so guys
can any one explain the road condition, how long ,about fuel from wadi Halfa to Khartoum?and again which route is the best regarding to keep the loaded heavy bike in one piece
my last info's about it was from Sandi Langton , she did it like 2 years ago and she wrote in her book (a girl , a bike , a dream ) that the 400 km from Halfa to Khartoum was awful and took 4 days ,like 100 km per day , and no fuel ,
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The part from Abu Dom to Kartoum wasn't paved two years ago, so it was slower. I just learned it was paved by watching "Long Way Down". I haven't done route 2, but route one was a highlight for me as well. I spoke to a driver for one of the overland truck companies who said they did route 2 once and it was a huge mistake. The road conditions were awful and all they did was dig the truck out of the sand all day. Even though it is shorter, it took them soemething like five times as long.
All my info is three years old.
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Originally Posted by omar mansour
so guys
can any one explain the road condition, how long ,about fuel from wadi Halfa to Khartoum?and again which route is the best regarding to keep the loaded heavy bike in one piece
my last info's about it was from Sandi Langton , she did it like 2 years ago and she wrote in her book (a girl , a bike , a dream ) that the 400 km from Halfa to Khartoum was awful and took 4 days ,like 100 km per day , and no fuel ,
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Hi Omar,
I believe that we met last year in Cairo. Hope all is well.
In regards to your questions, to summarize:
1. The much prefered route south from Wadi is along the Nile to Dongola. The other route roughly follows the train tracks and is very soft and sandy.
2. From Dongola, you head south through Adu Dom to Khartoum. This road was paved all the way as of last year and was in great condition.
3. As mentioned, the road from Wadi to Dongola is being worked on so is being improved. It's about 400 km, there is more and more improved road all the time, the unimproved roads are still pretty fair, there are a few spots where it is a bit soft and sandy but in general it is pretty decent.
4. Depends on your speed but if you are taking your time, 4 days is a pretty easy pace. You can do it in less if you want to ride more or stop less. This length will also decrease as the road continues to be improved.
5. There is no formal fuel station until you get to Kerma, where you can cross on the ferry to the east side of the Nile. But there is fuel available at many of the villages along the way from unofficial fuel re-sellers. Ask around the villages, usually in each one there is someone that sells it out of 45 gallon drums. A bit expensive but usually available.
Hope that helps. If there is anything else we can assist with, let us know, happy to help anyone in the Cairo bike community who have been so helpful to many a foreign biker passing through.
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